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Rondje
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by Rondje

Nefarious86 wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:54 am
Wookski wrote:
thePrince wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:48 am

And the salbutamol policies/testing protocals that worked for Ulissi, Petacchi, and others...weren't good enough to rule against Froome...and have since been confirmed to be good enough going forward.
Here we go, the broken record tinfoil hat brigade returns
When even the scientists who created the test question its validity....
But yet the UCI / WADA didn't change the rules after the Froome ruling. So the next cyclist is probably f***ed again since he most likely doesn't have the money Sky/Froome have to question these rules for validity.

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by tymon_tm

a politician would say "only crooked athletes have to fear that" :lol:
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thePrince
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by thePrince

Rondje wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:16 am
Nefarious86 wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:54 am
Wookski wrote:
thePrince wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:48 am

And the salbutamol policies/testing protocals that worked for Ulissi, Petacchi, and others...weren't good enough to rule against Froome...and have since been confirmed to be good enough going forward.
Here we go, the broken record tinfoil hat brigade returns
When even the scientists who created the test question its validity....
But yet the UCI / WADA didn't change the rules after the Froome ruling. So the next cyclist is probably f***ed again since he most likely doesn't have the money Sky/Froome have to question these rules for validity.
This is my point, and I'm not sure how that makes ME the broken record, and not UCI/WADA. It's ok for UCI/WADA to be inconsistent with the way they treat cases - even the same substance/violation/ruling - but yet it's not ok for me to make that observation?

And to bring my point back to the original topic of the impact of removing race radios/power meters (plus 5 or 6 man teams)...You can have high-powered Team Sky/UK at 2012 Olympics, including Cav, Froome, Millar, Stannard, Wiggins, Ellingworth, Brailsford, Reedie outsmarted on their home turf by a cunning move from one of the sports best ever tacticians (doper too). No matter the power, money, planing, and institutional support, they overraced the 250km course.

More dynamic racing is good for cycling - it somewhat neutralizes the big setups like Sky/Quickstep and their money/power/doping advantage. They will still win, but there will be bigger rewards for smaller, smarter setups.

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by bdb

The Trek-Segafredo men’s and women’s teams are pleased to announce a global partnership with Splunk Inc. The partnership kicks off January 1, 2019, when Splunk sponsors the Trek-Segafredo road teams on its global circuit and provides both teams and Trek with actionable insights created by analyzing data from across the Trek ecosystem from the factory floor to the finish line.

Splunk is sponsoring both the men’s and women’s Trek-Segafredo teams – a first in Trek history for the women’s team – demonstrating Splunk’s commitment to a culture of diversity, inclusion and equal opportunity. With this partnership, Splunk is focused on analyzing data from all parts of the business, including riders, coaches, mechanics, fans and more to maximize performance and results directly from the training grounds to the track, all the way to the Trek factories and warehouses.
As a splunk employee this is good to see, and especiaily the co-sponsoring of the women's team.

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by Monkeyfudger

Seems a silly company name...wouldn’t want to miss any letters when googling what they do.

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by bdb

Spelunking !

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Trek-Segafredo with Sram groups in 2019

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by maquisard

pastronef wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:13 pm
Trek-Segafredo with Sram groups in 2019
Unlucky, at least it isn't Campag!

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by Wookski

maquisard wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:08 pm
pastronef wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:13 pm
Trek-Segafredo with Sram groups in 2019
Unlucky, at least it isn't Campag!
Yes, no best looking, fastest shifting and superior ergonomics for Trek :lol:

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by Mr.Gib

Monkeyfudger wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:20 pm
Seems a silly company name...wouldn’t want to miss any letters when googling what they do.
Right, and this comming from a guy who goes by the name Monkeyfudger. (Is that even legal?)
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by Rudi

The fairly obvious difference between Sky and UK cycling is that Sky don't seem to mess up when it counts.

Quite why they didn't try and get someone like Millar in the breakaway in 2012 I don't know. As for wasting Steve Cummins in the 2016 Olympics by having him try and keep tabs on the breakaway rather than doing what he does best - getting into the brekaway then getting away from said breakaway - again I don't know.

Not so great news from UK womens cycling:
At the start of the week in which we had planned to share the news of our new title sponsor, our fantastic new technical partners and an array of talented riders, we are unfortunately having to fight to save the team. Last Friday evening, our new title sponsor pulled out of our agreement.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/be-p ... cling-team#/
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bilwit
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by bilwit

Rudi wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:20 pm
The fairly obvious difference between Sky and UK cycling is that Sky don't seem to mess up when it counts.

Quite why they didn't try and get someone like Millar in the breakaway in 2012 I don't know. As for wasting Steve Cummins in the 2016 Olympics by having him try and keep tabs on the breakaway rather than doing what he does best - getting into the brekaway then getting away from said breakaway - again I don't know.
Paris-Roubaix 2014, Thomas and Wiggins had the numbers in the break and one of them was supposed to follow Terpstra's winning attack yet they both just sat on with Cancellara. They had the legs and not the brains, as always with Team Sky in one day races.

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by Rudi

Shame they didn't have radios controlling them back then :-)
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by IchDien

bilwit wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:08 pm

Paris-Roubaix 2014, Thomas and Wiggins had the numbers in the break and one of them was supposed to follow Terpstra's winning attack yet they both just sat on with Cancellara. They had the legs and not the brains, as always with Team Sky in one day races.
DIdn't Wiggins follow Terpstra yet get chased down? Then Terpstra went again and everyone looked at each other?

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by Wookski

bilwit wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:08 pm
They had the legs and not the brains, as always with Team Sky in one day races.
Always except for Liege, Milan San Remo, Strade Bianche, San Sebastián etc etc etc

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