What do you want to see from Campagnolo 2022-2023?

[tomato]

Super Record based PM from stages is 1730 EUR ...

Where are you getting this number? Stages lists the price as US$900 (< 800 €). My wife had Stages do a factory install on her SR for US$325 (< 300 €).

I gave price for the whole crankset with Stages PM which is 1730 EUR.
https://www.bike24.com/search?searchTer ... per+record

You cal always buy SR crankset and than Stages left crankarm so it would cost you the same...950 EUR Stages L and 735 for crankset
https://www.bike24.com/p2277299.html
https://www.stagescycling.eu/power-mete ... d-12s.html
In this case it gets to 1685 EUR, but you have two shippings so you are back to 1700 EUR

I think you're still too high on price. You can get the crankset for under 600 EUR, and then have a Stages factory install done for under 400 EUR. There's no reason to buy another left arm from Stages for 950 EUR.

[smokva]

I wanted to compare listprices so I have just used what I found on internet...but taking your scenario, which is possible, it adds another 700 EUR to gap between Dura-Ace and Shimano.

[morrisond]

So is there any actual rumours about what Campy will launch next or is this thread just a Campy vs Shimano debate?

Super Ekar would be an easy one to do. Carbon Blades, Ti Axle, lighter RD.

I would also love to see 2x13 EPS in something other than SR - Chorus level could be fine with a 48-32 crank and a 10-32 cassette, 0r 10-29, or 10-27 for super low weight in SR level

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10-11-12-13-15-15-16-17-18-20-22-24-27

Straight block for the first 9 = Nirvanna gearing.

[gorkypl]

I think there was a separate thread for rumors, this one is more about our wishes But I think several things are being constantly repeated:
- new version of electric shifting, both for road and gravel groups
- road groups using N3W freehub (which suggests moving them to 13s)
- new gravel wheels (to get on par with 24-25 internal width Fulcrums)

[morrisond]

I think there was a separate thread for rumors, this one is more about our wishes But I think several things are being constantly repeated:
- new version of electric shifting, both for road and gravel groups
- road groups using N3W freehub (which suggests moving them to 13s)
- new gravel wheels (to get on par with 24-25 internal width Fulcrums)

I hope for new Gravel wheels as well, especially something in Carbon 650B.

N3W would also suggest road gearing is going to start at something less than 11T.

[Miller]

Can we pretty please get a chorus or above polished groupset?? Literally all I've wanted for 10+ years.

You can - except it's Shimano GRX. Shimano must be finally seeing sense and concentrating on pretty legacy componentry rather than trying to keep up technologically which is clearly too much for them (lol).

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-grx-limited/

[uncle-gee]

Want to see: A carbon frame with rim brake mounts, normal cockpit, normal seatpost, threaded bottom bracket, to fit your favorite SR or R groupset.

[smokva]

Want to see: A carbon frame with rim brake mounts, normal cockpit, normal seatpost, threaded bottom bracket, to fit your favorite SR or R groupset.

Be realistic, thats too exotic