Frame weights should not include any frame hardware. Just the bare frameliam7020 wrote:Just looking at your photo again - looks like your weight doesn't include derailleur hanger, cage bolts or seat binder?
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Nope, don't agree, frame weight should include all hardware required for the frame to function. How would weigh a steel frame where the derailleur hanger is part of the dropout? We'll have to agree to differ on that one lad.
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Same way bike weights should include everything that's required to ride. Like pedals. And unless it's a pure hill climbing machine then also bottle cages and computer mounts, etc.liam7020 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:07 pmNope, don't agree, frame weight should include all hardware required for the frame to function. How would weigh a steel frame where the derailleur hanger is part of the dropout? We'll have to agree to differ on that one lad.
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Ordered mine yesterday, we'll see how long it takes to ship to Germany.
As usual, couldn't contain myself and already ordered a complete Dura Ace 9200 that will arrive tomorrow. So I guess I'll drool over those parts while I'll have to wait for the frame for 2 months anyway...
As usual, couldn't contain myself and already ordered a complete Dura Ace 9200 that will arrive tomorrow. So I guess I'll drool over those parts while I'll have to wait for the frame for 2 months anyway...
Are Cycling100 still using the pre-order deposit system? I paid my depoist in mid April so hopefully won't be much longer.renegade1848 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:27 pmOrdered mine yesterday, we'll see how long it takes to ship to Germany.
As usual, couldn't contain myself and already ordered a complete Dura Ace 9200 that will arrive tomorrow. So I guess I'll drool over those parts while I'll have to wait for the frame for 2 months anyway...
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Correct.
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Yes they do, and mid April to mid July sounds like an awful long time. Did they give you an estimated ship date at some point or is this really just waiting until you finally get a tracking number? Not the first frame I order from China (with only positive experiences btw), but that was usually from the manufacturer directly and that enabled a rather direct communication.liam7020 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:42 pmAre Cycling100 still using the pre-order deposit system? I paid my depoist in mid April so hopefully won't be much longer.renegade1848 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:27 pmOrdered mine yesterday, we'll see how long it takes to ship to Germany.
As usual, couldn't contain myself and already ordered a complete Dura Ace 9200 that will arrive tomorrow. So I guess I'll drool over those parts while I'll have to wait for the frame for 2 months anyway...
I had an email discussion with Jonathan at Cycling100 prior to ordering so I was expecting a considerable wait, hopefully not much longer. Like you I've ordered quite a selection of frames and wheels from Chinese vendors and I agree it's been a pretty positve experience. I have previously waited a very long time for a Colnago frameset so I guess this isn't much different only cheaper!
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My L size frame i showed in this thread include all the necessary metal parts.
More weight data:
Medium frame: 881g incl derailleur hanger and seatclamp. (no bottle cage bolts)
Fork, uncut: 381g
Handlebar, 110mm x 380mm : 343g
Leaving for vacation today, so build pics in about two weeks.
First impressions very good, and packaging is first class.
Medium frame: 881g incl derailleur hanger and seatclamp. (no bottle cage bolts)
Fork, uncut: 381g
Handlebar, 110mm x 380mm : 343g
Leaving for vacation today, so build pics in about two weeks.
First impressions very good, and packaging is first class.
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Thanks everybody for commenting on the lead times. A little bit disappointing I must say, as season will be almost over by the time I'll get it, but in all fairness cycling100 mentions 10 to 12 weeks on their site. I was just hoping that this might be a conservative estimate.
Good news for my Arc8, though. Now it gets a chance to mate with a DA9200 groupset, cause there's no way I keep that on the shelve until October...
Good news for my Arc8, though. Now it gets a chance to mate with a DA9200 groupset, cause there's no way I keep that on the shelve until October...
I'll also pull the trigger shortly. I've had confirmation from cycling100 that the shipping to europe is duty paid (and as nino said, if i've to paid for the tax, i can afford it).
I'm just waiting one more week to see what the long term review of Cam Nicolls is going to say about this frame (after all, there isn't much info about it online).
Also, I want to go say hello to my bike dealer and see if maybe there's a really good deal on a BMC teammachine or a Merida reacto.
I'm just waiting one more week to see what the long term review of Cam Nicolls is going to say about this frame (after all, there isn't much info about it online).
Also, I want to go say hello to my bike dealer and see if maybe there's a really good deal on a BMC teammachine or a Merida reacto.
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I ordered my frame end of Feb and still waiting to be shipped. It's been really hard to actually get on to Jonathan after the Shanghai lockdown, it's like he's doing it all on his own and simply doesn't have the time.
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