2022 New Frame Rumours

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Andrew69
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by Andrew69

Floseph wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:51 am
Andrew69 wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:04 pm
Id expect Canyon to release a new Endurace model for 2022 for several reasons
1. Its their oldest model currently on sale
2. The s shaped seat post is apparently for the new Endurace, not the Aeroad
3. When I tried to look at stock for a friend their website said the model was sold out and being replaced
4. I bought one late last year for a training bike which means that it will be guaranteed to be updated and knowing my luck the new model wil be available as a CFR and will be nice and aero too....probably too good for a training bike though
Canyon just updated their Endurace line up. Some new liveries - same frame. I doubt that there is gonna be a new Endurace this year then.
Just had a look.
Very little has changed and even the prices have stayed the same

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Cannoli
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by Cannoli

topt wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:07 am
There was no bike computer, bottle cages and mount yes.
So, are you claiming canyon is also 8 kg ?

I mean canyon is claiming aeroad is 7,14kg with pedals and 65 DTSwiss wheels, only computer mount and bottle cages missing, lets say another 100g+ for the size difference ( I imagine 7,14 is for small), still gets you way bellow
I have the CFR in Small, and with bottle cages, GPS mount, pedals, and Varia under saddle mount, I'm at 7.36kg on the stock DT Swiss wheels. With Enve SES 5.6 wheels with CK hubs, it's now at 7.25kg.
Canyon Aeroad CFR Di2 | Canyon Ultimate SLX 9.0 Di2 | Trek Domane SL5 Disc (Gravel Bike / Fly-Away Road Bike) | Orbea Tera H-30 Disc (Touring Bike)

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FlatlandClimber
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by FlatlandClimber

topt wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:07 am
There was no bike computer, bottle cages and mount yes.
So, are you claiming canyon is also 8 kg ?

I mean canyon is claiming aeroad is 7,14kg with pedals and 65 DTSwiss wheels, only computer mount and bottle cages missing, lets say another 100g+ for the size difference ( I imagine 7,14 is for small), still gets you way bellow
I am not "claiming a canyon is 8kg", I am claiming that a canyon CFR with identical components to an S5 (and that's what we have here basically) will be 200g lighter than a S5 in the same size.
Not 900g, that's just bs. We can't see the bile GCN measures there, so why are we even speculating? It's not like there is some magic behind it. How much heavier are the components unique to the S5 compared to the Aeroad, and you have your weight difference. Differences in build, water bottles yes/ no, spares yes/no, team radio yes/no, will weigh the same for everyone.

Why would they claim on their website a bikes weight with pedals? Makes zero sense since they don't sell pedals. Pedals can weigh between 100g and 400g, so I don't really see why any bike maker would give out such number.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

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by FlatlandClimber

New Speedmax UCI legal.
Looks a lot like a mixture of the old bike and the Shiv TT.
Image
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

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by mrbrown4001

FlatlandClimber wrote:New Speedmax UCI legal.
Looks a lot like a mixture of the old bike and the Shiv TT.
Image
Can you repost the image link?


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RDY
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by RDY

Just looked at the 3T site.

They're dumping current model year Strada framesets for 1300 Euros.

Think that almost certainly signals that it's getting replaced.

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by FlatlandClimber

Makes sense. It's a little outdated and the cable solution on the front is the worst I have seen.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

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by henau212

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:59 pm
New Speedmax UCI legal.
Looks a lot like a mixture of the old bike and the Shiv TT.
Image
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/canyon-s ... r-disc-tt/

Now official...

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by FlatlandClimber

A Little surprised at CS Cage as Standard and Firecrest front wheel.
Also, the "2 watts faster" than the outgoing model compared to "watts faster than the out going model" on the Tri version is interesting.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

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Roel W
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by Roel W

henau212 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 1:11 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:59 pm
New Speedmax UCI legal.
Looks a lot like a mixture of the old bike and the Shiv TT.
Image
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/canyon-s ... r-disc-tt/

Now official...
No more front mech.
Seems a very weird decission as last years we've seen a lot of grand tour time trials with a climb in the end of the route.

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by henau212

Roel W wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 3:32 pm
henau212 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 1:11 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:59 pm
New Speedmax UCI legal.
Looks a lot like a mixture of the old bike and the Shiv TT.
Image
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/canyon-s ... r-disc-tt/

Now official...
No more front mech.
Seems a very weird decission as last years we've seen a lot of grand tour time trials with a climb in the end of the route.
Maybe the option is coming down the road, since only one model is sold atm. The pro team picture above has one :?

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by bikewithnoname

No Front mech on the Bikeradar review bike, but there's certainly still a mounting plate for it (and you can clearly see one attached in the picture you've quoted)
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by Lina

Roel W wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 3:32 pm
henau212 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 1:11 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:59 pm
New Speedmax UCI legal.
Looks a lot like a mixture of the old bike and the Shiv TT.
Image
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/canyon-s ... r-disc-tt/

Now official...
No more front mech.
Seems a very weird decission as last years we've seen a lot of grand tour time trials with a climb in the end of the route.
There is literally one on the image you quoted...

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by Hexsense

Is that FD tilt a little bit different from usual angle?
it looks a bit tail down to me.

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by Karvalo

Roel W wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 3:32 pm
henau212 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 1:11 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:59 pm
New Speedmax UCI legal.
Looks a lot like a mixture of the old bike and the Shiv TT.
Image
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/canyon-s ... r-disc-tt/

Now official...
No more front mech.
Seems a very weird decission as last years we've seen a lot of grand tour time trials with a climb in the end of the route.
The people who ride grand tour time trials don't have to buy the retail spec bike from Canyon :wink:

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