Tyres, Challenge vs Vittoria?
Moderator: robbosmans
I am slightly confused!
I test road a Cipo Bond in the summer, and ordered and built the bike. I have had a good 35mile ride on the bike, same setup, expect the tyres.
Both had latex tubes, as I used my own wheels and saddle on the demo bike. I have the Corsa+ tyres, and the demo was running Challenge Crits.
The bike doesnt feel as comfortable, in terms of dampened road buzz/imperfections.
In others opinions who have tried both, is the difference in the two tyres that different?
Thanks
Luke
I test road a Cipo Bond in the summer, and ordered and built the bike. I have had a good 35mile ride on the bike, same setup, expect the tyres.
Both had latex tubes, as I used my own wheels and saddle on the demo bike. I have the Corsa+ tyres, and the demo was running Challenge Crits.
The bike doesnt feel as comfortable, in terms of dampened road buzz/imperfections.
In others opinions who have tried both, is the difference in the two tyres that different?
Thanks
Luke
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Same route for the most part.
Massively! first ride since October! *gulp* I guess that has a massive part to play.
The Challenge was 23c 95psi, my Corsa+ are 23 front 25c rear and running around 90psi.
Luke
It's the whole shooting match. You wouldn't be able to accurately tell the difference between the Bond last summer and a Roubaix today after 3 months off the bike, let alone the Bond with a different set of high end tyres. I've had to borrow cheap soft saddles to use coming back from a lay-off because my normally brilliant for a century, thinly padded ones were pulverising my sitbones after 20 miles.
Don't Panic.
I shall ride this for several months and see how they feel. The 25c in the rear is pretty tight fit around the bridge of the rear brake! which I dont like.wingguy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:01 pmIt's the whole shooting match. You wouldn't be able to accurately tell the difference between the Bond last summer and a Roubaix today after 3 months off the bike, let alone the Bond with a different set of high end tyres. I've had to borrow cheap soft saddles to use coming back from a lay-off because my normally brilliant for a century, thinly padded ones were pulverising my sitbones after 20 miles.
Don't Panic.
I did a 35ish miles and boy did my arse taking a beating!
Luke
I can't rode more than 50 km without puncture on my challenge clincher tires, but
vittoria CX, Corsa tubular (10.000km)
continental attack and force (12.000km)
vittoria CX, Corsa tubular (10.000km)
continental attack and force (12.000km)
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AX Vial (SR11) <- FELT FC (Record 10) <- LOOK KX (Dura-Ace) <- Specialized EPIC (Superbe Pro)
If the Challenge was a 320tpi casing then it would have had a better ride. I don't find the current Vittorias (run them on the commuter) that smooth, the old Open Pavés were much better.
+1. Their cross tubs are magnificent (Grifo, Chicane, at least the Team version I have), but for some strange reason the smaller tires feel much different. And not in a good way.
I've used the Vittoria Open Pave CG III, but I won't buy them again (320 Tpi, but they felt like Durano Plus and pinch flat often if you don't keep them pumped up hard and ride on bumpy roads ( I retired them at 2,394.2 km but had many pinch flats when they were still fresh) ...
the best clinchers (by far) that I have used (and am still using on my daily commute bike) are Specialized Turbo Cotton (open tubular 320 Tpi) ... I'm using normal tubes but will try the next pair on my fast bike with latex tubes
so far, I have ridden 1764 Km with only 1 puncture on the front due to a very sharp shard of glass that would have punctured a Volvo bus tyre ... and I'm riding on crappy roads during winter
grip like superglue in the dry and wet and are fast and very plush/comfy ... Downside is that they are expensive, (not really as if you compare the price to good tubeless tyres, they are on par)
I think that they will start wearing thin after 2500km .... but I dont mind paying the extra and replacing every so often ... these are KOM fast and the nice thing is that you actually want to peddle faster with these
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Love the "Volvo bus tyre"dim wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:24 pmI've used the Vittoria Open Pave CG III, but I won't buy them again (320 Tpi, but they felt like Durano Plus and pinch flat often if you don't keep them pumped up hard and ride on bumpy roads ( I retired them at 2,394.2 km but had many pinch flats when they were still fresh) ...
the best clinchers (by far) that I have used (and am still using on my daily commute bike) are Specialized Turbo Cotton (open tubular 320 Tpi) ... I'm using normal tubes but will try the next pair on my fast bike with latex tubes
so far, I have ridden 1764 Km with only 1 puncture on the front due to a very sharp shard of glass that would have punctured a Volvo bus tyre ... and I'm riding on crappy roads during winter
grip like superglue in the dry and wet and are fast and very plush/comfy ... Downside is that they are expensive, (not really as if you compare the price to good tubeless tyres, they are on par)
I think that they will start wearing thin after 2500km .... but I dont mind paying the extra and replacing every so often ... these are KOM fast and the nice thing is that you actually want to peddle faster with these
I have heard many a good word on the Turbo Cottons, will have to keep those in mind.
Good to see 2 people in in Suffolk also.
Luke
You get the same casing in the Vredestein Superiore, and the rubber can't be that bad.
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