2018 S-Works Tarmac Disc

[parajba]

Thanks I just saw it. It has the older Ultegra, how different is it from the newer version? Can I change just the hoods with the newer one perhaps? Wheels would have to be replaced to with the CL50 (£1200) so the bike would cost around £3.3k.

[tnkn]

I built my s-works up for not much more that 6k. I was tempted by the pro but after finding various discount codes and planning the build i went for the s-works. Built myself to save the labour costs and got a set of custom built MCFK rims with C x-ray spokes on Newmen hubs at a good price.

I am debating whether I should buy a complete Tarmac Pro disc in size 54 as I can get one for £5.2k (or, but it’s a bit of a different question, build a Venge S Works with DA Di2, CLX50 for £6.8k).

What’s the finished weight of the Pro assuming I buy some nice / fancy Look pedals?

I understand the main differences (vs the Tarmac S Works) are:

1) wheels. CL va CLX. Not sure I will notice the difference?
2) handlebar (alu): this can be swapped later on. Does the alu handlebar make the ride harsh?
3) no ceramic bearings / lesser carbon used for the frame
4) Powermeter: doesn’t matter as I have a Quarq.
5) DA vs Ultegra Di2

I will put some tubeless so tyres don’t matter.

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My S-Works cost a lot less than the full build price......

Got the frame for £2,100 in the Sigmasports sale
Ultegra 8070 Di2 Shifters/calipers and mechs for £650 in a Rose bikes sale
CLX32 wheelset were £950 via eBay new and unused with rotors and tyres.
SWorks cranks/rings £120 eBay in mint cond.
Fizik R1 Bars/Stem/Saddle were £220 all in from eBay, all new
Picked up bargain wires/junctions/battery via eBay for £100 for the lot.

So a total spend of £4,250 with pedals, tape and chain. Took a while to piece together but that's what the winter is for, right?

[Rich_W]

Has anyone actually received and using the SL6 Disc direct mount deraileur hanger?

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Yup! UK concept store has them in at £10.99.

[Torbjorn]

Can someone explain to a beginner what the benefit is with the part you are talking about?

[scale29]

Slight weight reduction, looks cleaner, possibly more accurate shifting by removing a point of slop in the system.

[sfo423]

slightly OT, but was looking at a 61 s-works disc in a local shop (its sitting on the floor as in dealer owns it) and he had no interest in negotiating. So I walked. I know Specialized has serious 'advertised' price controls but but once you are face-to-face w/a buyer its up to the dealer to sell (a very unusual size) or not. I felt like he was an idiot not to try to move the bike. 'Oh well.

Any tips on acceptable dealer discount on this bike if its on the shelf? If you know of a dealer that has one, all the better.

[ryanw]

Cost is 58% of RRP of the majority of bikes (well here in the UK).

Dropping 10% off a £10k bike isn’t drastic but still a grand lost in profit. Being a rarer bike, I guess the shop owner is holding out.

I’m going to be purchasing a new top tier aero bike soon (IRO £10k RRP). I’ll be looking to handover no more than £8k when the sale goes through.

[g32ecs]

Cost is 58% of RRP of the majority of bikes (well here in the UK).

Dropping 10% off a £10k bike isn’t drastic but still a grand lost in profit. Being a rarer bike, I guess the shop owner is holding out.

I’m going to be purchasing a new top tier aero bike soon (IRO £10k RRP). I’ll be looking to handover no more than £8k when the sale goes through.

What is it in North America? Specifically in Canada?

Would love to leverage on close outs when time comes.

PM me if you think this shouldn't be answered publicly

[Slack]

How long have you worked in the industry out of interest? Just wondering where you got the 42% margin from.

Cost is 58% of RRP of the majority of bikes (well here in the UK).

Dropping 10% off a £10k bike isn’t drastic but still a grand lost in profit. Being a rarer bike, I guess the shop owner is holding out.

I’m going to be purchasing a new top tier aero bike soon (IRO £10k RRP). I’ll be looking to handover no more than £8k when the sale goes through.

[ichobi]

That margin is not for all kind of bikes though is it. Expensive model has much greater margin. Discounting cheaper bikes can be a hard pill to take for some shops. (that's how it work here in s/e asia even then some expensive model don't have much margin either). Nobody is getting rich selling bicycle here.

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[Slack]

This isn't true. The margin on S-Works is less than it is on all regular Specialized product.

That margin is not for all kind of bikes though is it. Expensive model has much greater margin. Discounting cheaper bikes can be a hard pill to take for some shops. (that's how it work here in s/e asia even then some expensive model don't have much margin either). Nobody is getting rich selling bicycle here.

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[packetloss]

This isn't true. The margin on S-Works is less than it is on all regular Specialized product.

That margin is not for all kind of bikes though is it. Expensive model has much greater margin. Discounting cheaper bikes can be a hard pill to take for some shops. (that's how it work here in s/e asia even then some expensive model don't have much margin either). Nobody is getting rich selling bicycle here.

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I doubt that. The difference between the S-Works and Pro model is barely noticeable (being generous). I have 2 S-works Tarmacs and 1 Pro and I'll be damned if I can tell the difference. The cost in materials between the 2 is negligible. The price difference is Large. The margin is clearly much higher.

[ryanw]

How long have you worked in the industry out of interest? Just wondering where you got the 42% margin from.

Cost is 58% of RRP of the majority of bikes (well here in the UK).

Dropping 10% off a £10k bike isn’t drastic but still a grand lost in profit. Being a rarer bike, I guess the shop owner is holding out.

I’m going to be purchasing a new top tier aero bike soon (IRO £10k RRP). I’ll be looking to handover no more than £8k when the sale goes through.

Have numerous mates who are sponsored by LBS’ and know people in the industry.

Obviously it’s not for ALL bikes, but the majority.