2021 PRO thread

[saldegracia]

I thought that this discussion was more about different brake points (for discs and rim brakes) on descends causing potential for crashes in the bunch as opposed to one being faster than the other....

[Dan Gerous]

I don't think there has been more crashes in the mixed brakes peloton than before when everyone was on rim brakes, it would be interesting if we could get detailed stats on crashes but it would be nearly impossible to compile. The UCI have said they would start compile stats on crashes but they probably wont be able to know the cause for sure all the time, often even those involved are not sure what the cause was.

I can't remember what pro was talking about this but I recall one in a 'are you for or against disc brakes' vox-pop arguing there was probably more difference in braking within the peloton back when everyone was using rim brakes as carbon brake track technology then was not as advanced and some teams were using rims with terrible braking.

[ms6073]

I thought that this discussion was more about different brake points (for discs and rim brakes) on descents causing potential for crashes in the bunch as opposed to one being faster than the other....

Since disc brakes started to become more mainstream in the world tour, I have seen far more pro's crash during high speed descents due to bad lines and/or hyrdoplaning caused by contaminants on the road surface than anything else.

[TheRich]

I thought that this discussion was more about different brake points (for discs and rim brakes) on descends causing potential for crashes in the bunch as opposed to one being faster than the other....

The hazard of outbreaking yourself has always existed.

[TobinHatesYou]

The only situation where mixed systems could possibly be an issue is in very wet conditions.

[LeDuke]

Oh good grief, you again, talking shit about a world class athhlete, hilarious. Don't you have 20 other forums you have to be at to tell people how fast you are?

Yep, Pidcock can't ride a bike, show us your prowess. https://www.instagram.com/p/B8MdS0Ige9o ... _copy_link

I’m not talking about myself, you jackass.

Here’s a quote from the husband of a woman with multiple XCO Worlds wins and an Olympic bronze medal. I think he’s seen a couple of bike races. Oh. His brother in law was the Canadian DH team coach, too.

But yeah he was good. Needs a bit of work on technical skills though, there was a rock drop that he was riding horrible every lap (like I had advert by eyes horrible). The guys he was lapping were riding it better than him.

The most impressive ride IMHO though was Carter Woods. His last lap of race was with in 10s of any lap that Piddock did.

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[Karvalo]

Here’s a quote from the husband of a woman with multiple XCO Worlds wins and an Olympic bronze medal. I think he’s seen a couple of bike races. Oh. His brother in law was the Canadian DH team coach, too.

My brother in law's a doctor, but if you came to me with a broken leg I would definitely only make it worse

[sychen]

Ok.. My comment on brakes is of that uci would to their benefit simply the pro peloton.. Less variables in neutral support.. Less cost..less complications. Why wouldn't they if no one objected.

And yes Ineos/Pinarello has the heaviest disc bike (without a lighter option) and would make it harder to be at 6.8kg without going weenie on all their bikes. So Brailsford would resist such a change if within his sphere of influence.

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[BenSiskri]

To be honest, his technical skills aren't going to be as good as somebody like Nino; he's only been doing XC competitively, since about 2019. The more he does, the better he'll get. Being a good CX racer doesn't mean you're automatically going to be as good racing XC; Sven Nys is a good example. XC is far more technical, and testing.
I think he'll be fine - but we won't know until he's under pressure. MvdP had a few crashes in his early races, when he was under pressure - but eventually succeeded.

[robbosmans]

Going to say it again, U23 worlds, one of the most technical courses ever, and who won?

[bikewithnoname]

Well i guess we'll see Pidcock's skills at the weekend, although Albstadt isn't as techincal as it was in years gone by (unless htey've amended it since last year)

He's no doubt targetting a podium

[pastronef]

Well i guess we'll see Pidcock's skills at the weekend, although Albstadt isn't as techincal as it was in years gone by (unless htey've amended it since last year)

He's no doubt targetting a podium

he said he´ll start way back in the grid, 92nd place iirc. he sids he´ll try his best to get into the top 16 to get the start in the XCC short track on the next Friday in Nove Mesto

[bikewithnoname]

ah yes, didn't see his start postion, tough to podium from there!

[OnTheRivet]

ah yes, didn't see his start postion, tough to podium from there!

If there is one thing a cross racers knows it's how to move up in traffic. I'm betting top 5.

[OnTheRivet]

Oh good grief, you again, talking shit about a world class athhlete, hilarious. Don't you have 20 other forums you have to be at to tell people how fast you are?

Yep, Pidcock can't ride a bike, show us your prowess. https://www.instagram.com/p/B8MdS0Ige9o ... _copy_link

I’m not talking about myself, you jackass.

Here’s a quote from the husband of a woman with multiple XCO Worlds wins and an Olympic bronze medal. I think he’s seen a couple of bike races. Oh. His brother in law was the Canadian DH team coach, too.

But yeah he was good. Needs a bit of work on technical skills though, there was a rock drop that he was riding horrible every lap (like I had advert by eyes horrible). The guys he was lapping were riding it better than him.

The most impressive ride IMHO though was Carter Woods. His last lap of race was with in 10s of any lap that Piddock did.

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Same was said about MvDP. Mountainbikers have a severe inferiority complex when it comes to people in other cycling disciplines. I don't know how many times I have heard a mountainbike rider talk shit about road riders not being able to handle a bike when the reality is I have ridden mountainbikes with that person and they are mediocre bike handlers at best. Just becuase they ride a mountainbike doesn't mean they don't suck at bike riding.