New carbon frame - considering TMR or Venge
Moderator: robbosmans
Hi guys / gals
Am in the market for a new carbon frame to upgrade my Specialised Tarmac.
Have about £2-2.5 grand to spend. Any ideas?
Like the look of BMC TMR, or possible Spec Venge.
Wanted for sportives and trips to the Alps climbing.
Already have Cosmic Carbone wheels which love so not looking to change them.
Answers on a postcard!
Kind regards.
Am in the market for a new carbon frame to upgrade my Specialised Tarmac.
Have about £2-2.5 grand to spend. Any ideas?
Like the look of BMC TMR, or possible Spec Venge.
Wanted for sportives and trips to the Alps climbing.
Already have Cosmic Carbone wheels which love so not looking to change them.
Answers on a postcard!
Kind regards.
If less is more.....just think how much more, more must be!!!!
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You should not start with looking to looks.
You should start with mapping a virtual bike that suits you the best.
Bring in: geometry, personal preferences, budget, purpose and other needs, etc
Then you will end with a blueprint that works like a filter.
And so you will be able to search in a more intelligent way for a match.
You should start with mapping a virtual bike that suits you the best.
Bring in: geometry, personal preferences, budget, purpose and other needs, etc
Then you will end with a blueprint that works like a filter.
And so you will be able to search in a more intelligent way for a match.
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What dont you like about the tarmac that makes you want to change? Might help us narrow it down.
What you clearly require is something Italian, with some heritage, after several years on a Tarmac!
If the grand tours are like classical music, kermesse racing is punkrock, Belgian style.
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If you're thinking you'd like an aero road frame perhaps take a look at the Canyon Aerorad or the Scott Foil (both of which are about 50% of your budget).
Look 795 may also be in your ballpark if you like it's slighty unconventional styling
Look 795 may also be in your ballpark if you like it's slighty unconventional styling
"We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities." Oscar Wilde
docmandu wrote:Thankyou for your kind pro-Italian advice.
Aww, come on Howard - you knew it was me! Seriously though, I think the advice about finding which frame manufacturers geometry 'fits' you best is good advice.
If the grand tours are like classical music, kermesse racing is punkrock, Belgian style.
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Colnago C50, Campag SR11
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The venge is a great bike, considered it heavily against my Tarmac but coming from an s5 I decided against aero.
The TMR is also a good choice but I will say that the brakes are not the best. Having wrenched my own TM01 and a friends TMR brakes, as well as reading it a lot, they are pretty on or off; very hard to setup with good modulation and in general. If you change wheels a lot I would recommend against it.
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The TMR is also a good choice but I will say that the brakes are not the best. Having wrenched my own TM01 and a friends TMR brakes, as well as reading it a lot, they are pretty on or off; very hard to setup with good modulation and in general. If you change wheels a lot I would recommend against it.
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I own a TMR01 - its a fantastic bike with some caveats.
Positives:
it is extraordinarily fast. it handles and brakes really well. it looks fantastic. in my view ( and feedback from clubmates say as well) , its faster than an equivalent S5 (though that may have something to do with the engine on top), its far more compliant than a scott Foil, and looks better than the out going aeroad (subjective view). i've back to backed it with a clubmates venge ( the s works 2012 frameset), and it rides better (but i'm biased!), though doesn't climb quite as well.
Negatives: adjusting anything is a pain and requires you to carry extra's like spacers for the brakes ( if you run zipps or carbon based wheels) for when the pads get worn as the brakes don't adjust like conventional rim brakes ( they are mini vees). the salddle adjustment needs a 13mm spanner. adjustin the seat vertically needs 3 pairs of hands!
I haven't tried it against many other aero road bikes.
Positives:
it is extraordinarily fast. it handles and brakes really well. it looks fantastic. in my view ( and feedback from clubmates say as well) , its faster than an equivalent S5 (though that may have something to do with the engine on top), its far more compliant than a scott Foil, and looks better than the out going aeroad (subjective view). i've back to backed it with a clubmates venge ( the s works 2012 frameset), and it rides better (but i'm biased!), though doesn't climb quite as well.
Negatives: adjusting anything is a pain and requires you to carry extra's like spacers for the brakes ( if you run zipps or carbon based wheels) for when the pads get worn as the brakes don't adjust like conventional rim brakes ( they are mini vees). the salddle adjustment needs a 13mm spanner. adjustin the seat vertically needs 3 pairs of hands!
I haven't tried it against many other aero road bikes.
BRM wrote:You should not start with looking to looks.
You should start with mapping a virtual bike that suits you the best.
Bring in: geometry, personal preferences, budget, purpose and other needs, etc
Then you will end with a blueprint that works like a filter.
And so you will be able to search in a more intelligent way for a match.
I disagree with this. 99% of people will like 99% of bikes as long as they think it looks good.
At the end of the day they're just bikes. They can all go up and down mountains.
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