Lina wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:46 am
eins4eins wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:31 am
haven't listed to that, but Nathan Schickel from Sram was also guest in the german besenwagen podcast to talk about hookless. It was just a big sram/zipp commercial and gave no transparency at all.
They happily explained the Degendt and Adamietz case, where they can blame external factors. But what about those Movistar failures? Riders from both teams, male and female, had their tires come off. Not only this year.
Yeah, all quiet about those failures because they happened in races hardly anyone watches. And of the recent cases we know of imo the most damning case is the one that happened to Baril. The AlUla Tour case that happened to men's team is most likely just a case of trying to ride on a flat tire considering where it happened.
That's a good article.
It's clear that Zipp is in full denial mode and hookless is even more half-assed than I thought. The amount of times Zipp denies current ISO standards, then turns around and uses ISO standards as proof of safety made me dizzy.
The way they "don't recommend NSW for rough races like Strade Bianchi, and Firecrest are tougher" but then turn around and say NSW's are just as impact resistant is the double-sided logic they apply to everything.
First of all, WTF. They don't recommend NSW's for Strade Bianchi? Do they have a disclaimer for consumers on what road surface you can use NSWs?
They don't follow ISO recommendations. But they advise pro teams to follow ISO recommendations.
They now officially have two different standards for safety on what tires will blow off rims. Let that sink in.
They don't advise NSW's for Strade Bianchi, but all their pro team results are on NSW's at Strade Bianchi.
They follow ISO dimensional standards for some measurements, but not for others.
They also say critical dimensions are the tire companies responsibility not theirs.
Passing the buck sounds like a big problem with hookless.
Here's our wheels at ISO standard (or the ISO standards we feel like following) and if the tire blows off bc the tire bead isn't compatible, not our problem.
The further I read, the worse Zipp's logic gets.
The only loser is the consumer. The onus of safety is completely skirted by doubletalk, and if you're picking teeth off the pavement, that's on you or the tire. It could never be them.