Yes, its another CR1, but I like it

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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Carbonman
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by Carbonman

Have been meaning to post this for some time. Weight is currently 5.9kg and as you will spot these are not light wheels. Replaced with some BTP Nano's it would come in around 5.1kg.

Here is the spec.
Scott CR1 Team 54: 978g (including headset cups + 2 X Schmolke carbon screws)
Scott CR1 forks: 390g (210mm steer including crown race)
Standard FSA headset: 55g (excluding other parts mentioned)
Schmolke top cap: 4g
Tune bottle holder + Schmolke carbon screws: 6g
Extralite UL stem 100mm: 94g
1 X 5mm carbon spacer: 1g
Schmolke TLO carbon bars (44cm): 146g (includes Schmolke carbon bar ends)
Velox Tressostar cotton bar tape (two reals): 28g
Corima 4 spoke wheels (set): 1,782g (includes computer magnet)
Tufo Jet Elite <160 + alloy extenders: 316g
M2Racer Ti Skewers: 30g
Extralite Ultra clamp: 12g
Tune seat post (cut down): 146g
Tune Concorde carbon saddle: 56g
Aerolite pedals: 74g
Campagnolo Record Carbon Group: 1,799g (substitutes / tuning)
AX Lightness carbon brakes
Jagwire elite carbon (real carbon) shoes + corima pads
FibreLyte Carbon Rear Mech. Plate
Full Ti Campagnolo sprockets
Ti cassette locking ring
C10 Ultra chain
Tune Carbon chain rings + alloy bolts
Extralite crank bolts
FRM Ti bottom bracket
B-T-P Carbon STI clamps
Schmolke carbon screw on BB cable guide
Flying snake carbon/kevlar cables

The weight of everything above is 5,916g (each item weighed). Add in the fudge factor for air + glue + grease.
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dlight
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by dlight

WOW,

Mean looking machine. If Batman rides a bicycle, he would borrow yours.

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nexusheli
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by nexusheli

dlight wrote:WOW,

Mean looking machine. If Batman rides a bicycle, he would borrow yours.


Robin... to the Bat-Cycle!


I have to agree though, mean looking bike, especially with those Corima wheels. Looks like you're out to chop some toes off with those things...

skid
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by skid

you seem to have reversed priorities in lightweight bike parts. your wheels are heavy but your bottle holder, bar tape, saddle, & cassette are extremely light (to the point that their functionality, comfort or durability is questionable).

Dellucci
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by Dellucci

Yes it´s very OK.........and it loks fast.

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CaptainWilier
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by CaptainWilier

Those wheels look crazy cool. 8)

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BikeTech
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by BikeTech

Carbonman, your bike stands out from the sea of CR1's on this forum. Nice build. Love the Corimas.

Speaking of Corimas, how is the "run out" or trueness of them? I would like a set of the 4 spokes for my TT bike. The straightest composite 3 or 4 spoke wheel I've seen thus far are my Mavic 3Gs (heavy but cool). If you can, post your experiences with the wheelset.

Carbonman
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by Carbonman

BikeTech wrote:Carbonman, your bike stands out from the sea of CR1's on this forum. Nice build. Love the Corimas.

Speaking of Corimas, how is the "run out" or trueness of them? I would like a set of the 4 spokes for my TT bike. The straightest composite 3 or 4 spoke wheel I've seen thus far are my Mavic 3Gs (heavy but cool). If you can, post your experiences with the wheelset.


As they say flattery will get you everywere :D

I have had these wheels for about 6 years and I use them all the time (these are not put on for specific rides, etc. - they are always on my primary bike). I have done tens of thousands of miles on them. Although they are heavy I honestly don't think the weight is in the rim but more like the hubs so per the previous rolling resistance point I don't think this is a huge compromise (I do have 160g tires on them). They have some amazing aerodynamic qualities (stop pedalling at 40mph+ and you can feeling the wheels pushing the bike forward as each spoke turns - seriously. The rear wheel is a bit out of alignment but this was not caused when riding the bike. These wheels are very stiff IMO. Of course they can be a bit of a handful in very strong winds. If you can live with the extra weight I really recommend these wheels - and they look fantastic IMO. I am a true WW but I still can not bring myself to part with these wheels - money is not the issue here. Corima's service goes hot and cold, sometimes I'm really pleased and other times I think they are useless and vow never to buy Corima again.

For the comment on comfort, reliability I sort of disagree. This bike is really comfortable. The SDS system on the CR1 and the Tune saddle is really comfortable, compared to my old SLR Carbon saddle. I have used this bar tape for years and find it comfortable - I do sometimes have two layers on for 100m+ cycles. It is cheap so I can use white and replace it often. OK so the Tune carbon chain rings are not going to last forever but they have done over 1K and look as good as the day I brought them and they are not that expensive. Of course I weigh around 60kg so this bike feels very stiff to me (my previous two bikes had a TT frame so I’m used to very stiff frames).

Thanks for all the great comments. It does pain me to have wheels so heavy being a dedicated WW, as mentioned I could easily get this to 5.1kg by replacing them with BTP Nano's, but I love the way they ride and I have always loved the look of these wheels since the first time I saw them (on the track in the Olympics - many many years ago).

The only real upgrade left for this year is a Schmolke TLO seat post. I was going to get an AX combo (just getting positioning right with the Tune post and my old saddle) but when Tune brought out the new saddle the penalty for adjustability with the Tune saddle and Schmolke post is so minimal I change my mind.

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strobbekoen
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by strobbekoen

5.1kg ? :D
watch out on windy days!!

Carbonman
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by Carbonman

strobbekoen wrote:5.1kg ? :D
watch out on windy days!!


Another reason to stick with my heavy wheels.

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Ripley451
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by Ripley451

I definately prefer my Campy Wheels in windy conditions to my poshbike wheels as lovely as they are.
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