It looked like he was on the sprint 60/66 based on the depth and pictures. As for the second question, I'm not sure.eucalyptus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:39 pmTwiggyForest wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:00 amGirmay just won on the new Newmens. I'm not saying he won because of them, but he didn't lose. These look a really compelling western option, hopefully they sort out their supply.
Do you know which set?
I have a SL7 looking frame with 45mm 1300 gram wheels today
Looking to get the new Newmen Vonoa C35/38
I know it's considered aero.... But would drop almost 300 gram.
Also, do anyone know if the rims are drilled or tape is not needed? (that's like 30 gram saving of tape)
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Use lighter tape. Schwalbe tubeless tape in 27mm width weighs 16.6g/pair on my wheels, with an overlap as recommended by Schwalbe.eucalyptus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:39 pmAlso, do anyone know if the rims are drilled or tape is not needed? (that's like 30 gram saving of tape)
https://escapecollective.com/wp-content ... 3170-2.jpgeucalyptus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:39 pmTwiggyForest wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:00 amGirmay just won on the new Newmens. I'm not saying he won because of them, but he didn't lose. These look a really compelling western option, hopefully they sort out their supply.
Do you know which set?
I have a SL7 looking frame with 45mm 1300 gram wheels today
Looking to get the new Newmen Vonoa C35/38
I know it's not considered aero.... But would drop almost 300 gram.
Also, do anyone know if the rims are drilled or tape is not needed? (that's like 30 gram saving of tape)
https://escapecollective.com/biniam-gir ... f-victory/
Looks like the Sprint-Version 60/66 (seems not to be the TT-Version 80).
I have reached out to Newmen about the Allround model specifically and got this answer:
thank you for your interest in our new Streem Aero wheels. Due to the high demand, availability is currently very limited. We are working hard to ensure that all Streem wheels will be available again in the next few weeks. Thank you for your patience.
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Aero data for 3 of the Vonoa wheels.
Pretty disappointing they didn't test with the 1100 62 DIcut but i might just pull the trigger and get the Vonoa sprint wheels.
Pretty disappointing they didn't test with the 1100 62 DIcut but i might just pull the trigger and get the Vonoa sprint wheels.
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there is zero availability. They havent even started selling. R2 bike is the only one who published the wheels.jacek wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:26 amI have reached out to Newmen about the Allround model specifically and got this answer:
thank you for your interest in our new Streem Aero wheels. Due to the high demand, availability is currently very limited. We are working hard to ensure that all Streem wheels will be available again in the next few weeks. Thank you for your patience.
The only available wheels was probably sent off to TFD riders or other outlets.
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you're right
aerolite ii on 1100, 0.7/3.1; aero comp ii on 1400, 0.9/3.2
considering aerolite ii are ~1 watt faster than the 0.9/2.2 aerolite i, the difference would be within margin of error
the real caveat is that current swiss side rims are designed around 25mm tyres so the dt swiss wheel is being gimped by the 28 mm tyre. But but that's just how things are when your product is outdated.
aerolite ii on 1100, 0.7/3.1; aero comp ii on 1400, 0.9/3.2
considering aerolite ii are ~1 watt faster than the 0.9/2.2 aerolite i, the difference would be within margin of error
the real caveat is that current swiss side rims are designed around 25mm tyres so the dt swiss wheel is being gimped by the 28 mm tyre. But but that's just how things are when your product is outdated.
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They didn't even have the wheels for review articles and marketing.eucalyptus wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:13 pmthere is zero availability. They havent even started selling. R2 bike is the only one who published the wheels.jacek wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:26 amI have reached out to Newmen about the Allround model specifically and got this answer:
thank you for your interest in our new Streem Aero wheels. Due to the high demand, availability is currently very limited. We are working hard to ensure that all Streem wheels will be available again in the next few weeks. Thank you for your patience.
The only available wheels was probably sent off to TFD riders or other outlets.
Other than R2 bike, I found another seller in the US dealing with Newmen, who quotes 2 to 6 weeks, but I suppose it is flattery.
https://www.zeitbike.com/products/newme ... s=e&_v=1.0
And this shop from italy says July 20.
https://www.valtellinabike.com/NEWMEN-R ... -12x142-SH
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I am on the same side.eucalyptus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:39 pmTwiggyForest wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:00 amGirmay just won on the new Newmens. I'm not saying he won because of them, but he didn't lose. These look a really compelling western option, hopefully they sort out their supply.
Do you know which set?
I have a SL7 looking frame with 45mm 1300 gram wheels today
Looking to get the new Newmen Vonoa C35/38
I know it's not considered aero.... But would drop almost 300 gram.
Also, do anyone know if the rims are drilled or tape is not needed? (that's like 30 gram saving of tape)
My current wheels are Reserve 52|63, so Newmen Vonoa C35/38 saves me as much as 500g.
Just switch wheels by routes.
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All Newmen wheels are (today) hooked.
Newmen in the German Forum Feb. 2024:
"I would like to make a brief statement on this:
In 2016, we released hookless racing bike rims in our very first product portfolio. The idea was to incorporate this technology, which had enabled us to develop MTB rims that were lighter and had better dent resistance than benchmark products at the time, into our racing bike rims as well.
At the time, we had everything validated by an independent German testing institute using tires from well-known German tire manufacturers. At the time of development, hookless rims for bicycles were not even mentioned in the ETRTO.
As the practical cases of tires coming off (primarily from Italian manufacturers with cotton carcasses) were piling up, we decided to voluntarily recall our hookless racing bike rims.
During the whole process, we learned a lot about the burst pressure of different tire and rim combinations in our in-house test laboratory and will no longer offer hookless rims based on the knowledge we gained.
Ironically, we recalled our hookless rims in 2018 before, or while, competitors launched hookless racing bike rims and the technology was included in the ETRTO.
...incidentally, with our current research from CFD simulations and wind tunnels, we cannot understand what aerodynamic advantages hookless rims are supposed to have with standard racing bike tires. The reason why hookless rims have a rather negative effect on the ratio between low air resistance and low weight has already been correctly identified by a user here in the previous discussion.
Best regards,"
https://www.rennrad-news.de/forum/threa ... st-6052929