Yet another narrow bar: Worx Narrow and Super Narrow Bars

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rawjunk
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by rawjunk

Aeroo handlebar had longer reach and 40mm longer stem in that test?

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Lina
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RDY wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:58 pm
Lina wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:15 am
Have they got a brake chute on the rider for testing? 300 W for 37.9 km/h is awful.
Testing was in real world, not a wind tunnel. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/ ... 1722139445

Seems pretty normal.
Wait let me get this straight? They used not only two different bikes but also two different riders for the testing. With baseline being old round tube SuperSix and the narrow bar bike being Ostro VAM. On top of that they went with a 170 mm stem with the narrow bar. That's one way to cook up the tests in your favor I guess. It has no scientific value whatsoever but makes for cool graphs I guess.

And yes, 300 W for 37.9 km/h is awful. Even in the real world. Maybe even especially in the real world.

RDY
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by RDY

Lina wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:18 pm
RDY wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:58 pm
Lina wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:15 am
Have they got a brake chute on the rider for testing? 300 W for 37.9 km/h is awful.
Testing was in real world, not a wind tunnel. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/ ... 1722139445

Seems pretty normal.
Wait let me get this straight? They used not only two different bikes but also two different riders for the testing. With baseline being old round tube SuperSix and the narrow bar bike being Ostro VAM. On top of that they went with a 170 mm stem with the narrow bar. That's one way to cook up the tests in your favor I guess. It has no scientific value whatsoever but makes for cool graphs I guess.

And yes, 300 W for 37.9 km/h is awful. Even in the real world. Maybe even especially in the real world.
You have it completely backwards. A long stem and narrow bars as baseline would negate a lot of the inherent advantage of their bars. They still managed to show a significant gain though, though much less than the other rider running 42s gained.

No it isn't ... especially not for relatively large heavy riders, on what judging by the photos was rough chipseal.

You didn't read or even try to understand anything ...

Lina
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by Lina

RDY wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:46 pm
Lina wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:18 pm
RDY wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:58 pm
Lina wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:15 am
Have they got a brake chute on the rider for testing? 300 W for 37.9 km/h is awful.
Testing was in real world, not a wind tunnel. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/ ... 1722139445

Seems pretty normal.
Wait let me get this straight? They used not only two different bikes but also two different riders for the testing. With baseline being old round tube SuperSix and the narrow bar bike being Ostro VAM. On top of that they went with a 170 mm stem with the narrow bar. That's one way to cook up the tests in your favor I guess. It has no scientific value whatsoever but makes for cool graphs I guess.

And yes, 300 W for 37.9 km/h is awful. Even in the real world. Maybe even especially in the real world.
You have it completely backwards. A long stem and narrow bars as baseline would negate a lot of the inherent advantage of their bars. They still managed to show a significant gain though, though much less than the other rider running 42s gained.

No it isn't ... especially not for relatively large heavy riders, on what judging by the photos was rough chipseal.

You didn't read or even try to understand anything ...
Yeah my bad, I understood first they had 1 bike with the 42s and one with their bars.

But still, the guys riding those bikes are so unaero. Especially considering their stem lenghts. I'm taller than either one and I'm going over 40 km/h at 300 watts. under 38 km/h at 300 watts is awful.

TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

Lina wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:35 pm

But still, the guys riding those bikes are so unaero. Especially considering their stem lenghts. I'm taller than either one and I'm going over 40 km/h at 300 watts. under 38 km/h at 300 watts is awful.

Rider B with .256 and .246m^2 is pretty dang aero. I’m in the .23 range, but 15kg lighter. Rider A is definitely not what I personally would consider aero, but .285m^2 is also probably more aero than 95% of the posters on this board and would have been considered fairly aero on a road bike just 6 or 7 years ago.

Arnomatic
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by Arnomatic

Can anyone with the BikeDoc aero road bars tell me if there is sufficient space for mechanical shifting and brake cables? Talking entry/exit holes. Cheers!

Finn
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by Finn

Arnomatic wrote:Can anyone with the BikeDoc aero road bars tell me if there is sufficient space for mechanical shifting and brake cables? Talking entry/exit holes. Cheers!
Not necessarily the biggest holes but they work also with mechanical cables. I also have this setup and it works pretty nice, though unfortunately I don't have photos at the hand.

Arnomatic
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by Arnomatic

Finn wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:05 pm
Not necessarily the biggest holes but they work also with mechanical cables. I also have this setup and it works pretty nice, though unfortunately I don't have photos at the hand.
Thanks for the quick reply! When you get a chance to take some pictures I'd be interested to see. Thanks very much

Pajazo
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by Pajazo

Has anyone tried this bar

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007314052092.html

Comes in 300-400 mm c-c hoods and 330-430mm c-c drops. I have personally no experience with these bars, but the geometry seems interesting.

rawjunk
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by rawjunk

Arnomatic wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:20 pm
Finn wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:05 pm
Not necessarily the biggest holes but they work also with mechanical cables. I also have this setup and it works pretty nice, though unfortunately I don't have photos at the hand.
Thanks for the quick reply! When you get a chance to take some pictures I'd be interested to see. Thanks very much
Here is couple of pics:

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I hope those cable grooves like in new Aeroad/Zipp bars will be more common in the future.

Hexsense
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by Hexsense

Pajazo wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:52 pm
Has anyone tried this bar

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007314052092.html

Comes in 300-400 mm c-c hoods and 330-430mm c-c drops. I have personally no experience with these bars, but the geometry seems interesting.
Yeah, interesting.
A bit too little flare for me though.
I prefer +5 or +6 cm drop vs hood.
+3cm is not much more than +2cm common on Zipp SL-70 and plenty of other bars that we don't really notice the flare.

Arnomatic
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by Arnomatic

rawjunk wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:40 pm
Here is couple of pics:
Much appreciated! Big enough for two cables in your opinion?



rawjunk
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by rawjunk

Arnomatic wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:48 pm
rawjunk wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:40 pm
Here is couple of pics:
Much appreciated! Big enough for two cables in your opinion?
I think it would be a struggle, but maybe.

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