2022 PRO Thread

[TobinHatesYou]

Jumbo-Visma to SRAM.

[pastronef]

Jumbo-Visma to SRAM.

wow! that's big news if true

[robbosmans]

Yeah that’s big news, so does that mean zipp too?

[TobinHatesYou]

Yeah that’s big news, so does that mean zipp too?

It was apparently an offer they couldn't refuse / Shimano wasn't willing to match. I think Zipp all but guaranteed (instead of, say, Reserve.)

https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/jumbo ... onsor-sram

[C36]

Is Royal Dutch Shell a particularly bad oil company? I'm tired of oil=bad bullshit. We all use energy every single day whether that is fuel in our car, natural gas to cook, or gas/nuclear/coal to charge up the electric battery in our EV.

Shell is one of the worst…

https://youtu.be/6uuW4AP8M4M

Tried to stay away (and I guess I will regret stepping in) from the Oil&Gas conversation but the Shell in Nigeria while a complete disaster it has a lot “not to do” with Shell, between the company structure (that nationals had a lot of power) and government lack of actions lead to this (and know from O&G and NGO background)

Today O&G companies are essential to the transition. First cause gas will be a temporary transition (in short burns cleaner, and already have “a lot”), then cause they have the cash flow to throw money in projects without having quick returns so they can invest massively into batteries, solar, wind, co2 capture without being at threat…
Last and not least, a lot of the tech used to understand the subsurface is essential to enable co2 capture , geothermal, Lithium capture… and if it was not for the tech already developed by Oil&Gas service company, there would not be a chance on planet earth that it would be developed “just” for co2 or geothermal (long dev cycles, extremely expensive, complex to deploy).

[Karvalo]

Yeah that’s big news, so does that mean zipp too?

It was apparently an offer they couldn't refuse / Shimano wasn't willing to match. I think Zipp is likely, but Pon does have Reserve in its stable.

I'd heard from a Cervelo source that JV was going to be on Reserve next year. I guess Sram already sponsors Trek Factory without Zipp included.

[TobinHatesYou]

I'd heard from a Cervelo source that JV was going to be on Reserve next year. I guess Sram already sponsors Trek Factory without Zipp included.

But Jumbo isn’t a Pon/Cervelo factory team, so we’ll see. Cervelo isn’t even a title sponsor.

[pastronef]

also, no more Shimano shoes for the whole Jumbo team, now that Shimano is out

[robbosmans]

Pauline Ferrand-Prevot joins Ineos!

[stoney]

Yes and PFP will be stepping into some CX races this winter as well. Fun, fun!

[tymon_tm]

I wish she'd go back to do some road races, at least few a year... women's peloton could use some "fresh blood" after AVV's utter dominance in this season

[Karvalo]

I'd heard from a Cervelo source that JV was going to be on Reserve next year. I guess Sram already sponsors Trek Factory without Zipp included.

But Jumbo isn’t a Pon/Cervelo factory team, so we’ll see. Cervelo isn’t even a title sponsor.

Does that make any difference? Point was only that Sram willing to be groupset sponsors without including Zipp in the package even if it sounds odd. Though maybe Reserve was the plan but Sram have outbid. Depends how much Pon plans to develop the Reserve brand I guess, because their pockets are deep enough to pay for it if they want to.

[jurez]

Jumbo-Visma to SRAM.

huge!

[jurez]

also, no more Shimano shoes for the whole Jumbo team, now that Shimano is out

any idea which brand they are going for here?

[eins4eins]

Probably no shoe sponsor. Or lots of overshoes next year