Rim tape for clinchers?
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I like clinchers and latex tubes. I slso like light, but durable. I have no interest in tubless at the moment.
What tape do you guys suggest? The rim strips are 28g each.
What tape do you guys suggest? The rim strips are 28g each.
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Maybe try Velocity Veloplugs? 6.5g for 48 holes. Not sure how these play with latex tubes or your rims, though. If that doesn't work out, strapping or masking tape is a great option too at about the same weight.
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2 wraps of green poly tape / green powder coat masking tape is like 9 grams per wheel.
Found the Poly tape - but in 0.06mm or 0.09mm. It's worth a try though in 0.09mm with € 15,- for 66 mtrs and available in every with you want. Think I will order 17 or 18mm for my Zipp clinchers.
I use 1 layer of Tesa 4289 for tubeless and for Latex. No issues, very light.
If I ran high pressures ( > 7bar) I'd consider 2 layers.
If I ran high pressures ( > 7bar) I'd consider 2 layers.
Veloplugs are a good idea but I found the chinese copies are even better. They fit more hole diameters and they don't fall out when replacing a tube.
Imagine swapping a tube roadside and have the new one pop right away because one little plastic thing fell off the rim.
When running plugs you need to inspect the rim bed more carefully. There can be no sharp edges. Grind 'em away if you find any.
Imagine swapping a tube roadside and have the new one pop right away because one little plastic thing fell off the rim.
When running plugs you need to inspect the rim bed more carefully. There can be no sharp edges. Grind 'em away if you find any.
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Just make sure they are fitted clean with no sharp edges, I've had no issues using them with lightweight Tubolito tubes (38g)
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Do you mean green painters tape?TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 5:35 am2 wraps of green poly tape / green powder coat masking tape is like 9 grams per wheel.
Nothing’s wrong with Velox tape except it’s relatively thick compared to say something like Stans Notubes tape. With all the “tubeless compatible” rims these days, the fit can be extremely tight so you need ever bit of help you can get. I’m not sure if Campy still offers both Clincher and Two Way Fit versions of their alloy rims, but with the regular Clincher version I could mount a tire by hand. If I was looking for a Clincher rim now, I would want to be able to remove and replace a tire easily on the road.
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With rim brakes, I'd be concerned with plastic tape melting under heavy braking if you ride steep, technical terrain (powder coat tape is probably OK, as its made to take the heat). I've melted plastic rim strips before.Calnago wrote:Nothing’s wrong with Velox tape except it’s relatively thick compared to say something like Stans Notubes tape. With all the “tubeless compatible” rims these days, the fit can be extremely tight so you need ever bit of help you can get. I’m not sure if Campy still offers both Clincher and Two Way Fit versions of their alloy rims, but with the regular Clincher version I could mount a tire by hand. If I was looking for a Clincher rim now, I would want to be able to remove and replace a tire easily on the road.
I’ve never heard of melting a plastic rim strip before. My clinchers have typically had velox tape, but new clinchers with no spoke holes don’t need any tape at all. I haven’t heard of any tubeless users melting the rim tape either, but I suppose under the right conditions...?
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I figure my latex tubes make a good “canary in the coal mine” for heat. If they pop from heat.... time to use different rim tape.
Did they actually melt or just fail?MikeD wrote:With rim brakes, I'd be concerned with plastic tape melting under heavy braking if you ride steep, technical terrain (powder coat tape is probably OK, as its made to take the heat). I've melted plastic rim strips before.Calnago wrote:Nothing’s wrong with Velox tape except it’s relatively thick compared to say something like Stans Notubes tape. With all the “tubeless compatible” rims these days, the fit can be extremely tight so you need ever bit of help you can get. I’m not sure if Campy still offers both Clincher and Two Way Fit versions of their alloy rims, but with the regular Clincher version I could mount a tire by hand. If I was looking for a Clincher rim now, I would want to be able to remove and replace a tire easily on the road.
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Melted at a spoke hole and extruded into the rim. Tube failed at that location. Happened on my road and mountain bike. Specialized red plastic rim strips. This was a long time ago, but since then I've used only Velox on my rim braked bikes except for my tubeless rim braked gravel bike where I'm using Stan's tape.Valy wrote:Did they actually melt or just fail?MikeD wrote:With rim brakes, I'd be concerned with plastic tape melting under heavy braking if you ride steep, technical terrain (powder coat tape is probably OK, as its made to take the heat). I've melted plastic rim strips before.Calnago wrote:Nothing’s wrong with Velox tape except it’s relatively thick compared to say something like Stans Notubes tape. With all the “tubeless compatible” rims these days, the fit can be extremely tight so you need ever bit of help you can get. I’m not sure if Campy still offers both Clincher and Two Way Fit versions of their alloy rims, but with the regular Clincher version I could mount a tire by hand. If I was looking for a Clincher rim now, I would want to be able to remove and replace a tire easily on the road.
People have failed carbon rims on Levi's Gran Fondo in Sonoma County where I had the failure on a road in that area, so it's logical that one can melt rim strips / tape under the right conditions. Latex tubes are also prone to failure from heat.