Cervelo RCA or Custom Bike

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exctasy
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by exctasy

Hi guys,

Unfortunately i totalled my 2016 Cervelo R5, which was my favourite and most comfortable bike. Rode her for a good 2+years.
I cant decide between an RCA 2016 or perhaps look around for my first custom bike.
RCA
- similar geometry which i'm comfortable with for the past 2+years
- WW!!!
- Have always wanted one

Custom
- custom geometry with my ride preference
- No idea how it would ride
- definitely cost more

Currently in my stable, I've got a 2016 Cervelo S5. Love her, however just not as comfortable and lively up inclines as compared to the R5.

Any thoughts anyone? :noidea: :D

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Lelandjt
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by Lelandjt

RCA was soooo sweet. A custom may "fit" you better but it won't be made as well. I know the guy who made them and he's the master of carbon.

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by Alpine318is

If you are comfortable with and like your R5 I would just stick with that or get the RCA.
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NiFTY
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by NiFTY

What are you goimg to ask the custom frame builder - can you match the characteristics of my r5 but better? - just get the rca
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by shimmeD

Get the rca, since you've always wanted one. OTOH if you've never always wanted a custom, you should. :beerchug:
Less is more.

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

I would also get RCA. But i'm curious of what you'd like from your custom build, if you bought one?
I doubt weight would be as low as the RCA though!
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
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Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

exctasy
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by exctasy

wheelsONfire wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:25 pm
I would also get RCA. But i'm curious of what you'd like from your custom build, if you bought one?
I doubt weight would be as low as the RCA though!
All I would ask from the custom builder would be as comfortable and nimble as the R5 or even better.
Maybe tweak something to make descending slightly better?
Or maybe I'm just shit descending.
Lol

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

exctasy wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:08 am
wheelsONfire wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:25 pm
I would also get RCA. But i'm curious of what you'd like from your custom build, if you bought one?
I doubt weight would be as low as the RCA though!
All I would ask from the custom builder would be as comfortable and nimble as the R5 or even better.
Maybe tweak something to make descending slightly better?
Or maybe I'm just shit descending.
Lol
What is the that you're experiencing when you descend?
If you look at Canyon, they use a bit longer chainstays to make the bike more stable.
BMC implement a slacker steering rake (quite much so). This is certainly adding to the effect of slower steering.

The interesting thing with custom framesets, is probably the sizing for those who need different sizing.
Next i would say, is if you're particular about certain traints of handling and opinion of how the bike feels (ride feel).

I have started to look for these things in standard bikes. That is available without custom.
For some this ofcourse hits more traits than for others.
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

FelixTheCat
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by FelixTheCat

I would stick to what you know and love, and upgrade to the RCA whilst your at it.

exctasy
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by exctasy

wheelsONfire wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:22 am
exctasy wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:08 am
wheelsONfire wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:25 pm
I would also get RCA. But i'm curious of what you'd like from your custom build, if you bought one?
I doubt weight would be as low as the RCA though!
All I would ask from the custom builder would be as comfortable and nimble as the R5 or even better.
Maybe tweak something to make descending slightly better?
Or maybe I'm just shit descending.
Lol
What is the that you're experiencing when you descend?
If you look at Canyon, they use a bit longer chainstays to make the bike more stable.
BMC implement a slacker steering rake (quite much so). This is certainly adding to the effect of slower steering.

The interesting thing with custom framesets, is probably the sizing for those who need different sizing.
Next i would say, is if you're particular about certain traints of handling and opinion of how the bike feels (ride feel).

I have started to look for these things in standard bikes. That is available without custom.
For some this ofcourse hits more traits than for others.
I feel like the bike can feel a little more planted during descents?
Could it be that my R5 is 6kg and I'm 55kg?

Stueys
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by Stueys

exctasy wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:11 am
wheelsONfire wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:22 am
exctasy wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:08 am
wheelsONfire wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:25 pm
I would also get RCA. But i'm curious of what you'd like from your custom build, if you bought one?
I doubt weight would be as low as the RCA though!
All I would ask from the custom builder would be as comfortable and nimble as the R5 or even better.
Maybe tweak something to make descending slightly better?
Or maybe I'm just shit descending.
Lol
What is the that you're experiencing when you descend?
If you look at Canyon, they use a bit longer chainstays to make the bike more stable.
BMC implement a slacker steering rake (quite much so). This is certainly adding to the effect of slower steering.

The interesting thing with custom framesets, is probably the sizing for those who need different sizing.
Next i would say, is if you're particular about certain traints of handling and opinion of how the bike feels (ride feel).

I have started to look for these things in standard bikes. That is available without custom.
For some this ofcourse hits more traits than for others.
I feel like the bike can feel a little more planted during descents?
Could it be that my R5 is 6kg and I'm 55kg?
It’s the R5 trait, I’ve the same critique if mine. Only thing I would change on the bike.

exctasy
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by exctasy

@stueys sooo I'm not the only one feeling it :D
I live in a country where there are no long alp descents..but I do overseas ride with such descents at least once a year

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Lelandjt wrote:RCA was soooo sweet. A custom may "fit" you better but it won't be made as well. I know the guy who made them and he's the master of carbon.
Really? I’ve seen several bare RCa frames close up and they aren’t anything special in the quality stakes compared to top custom builders.

Just a Cervelo that is less likely to crack! ;)


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morganb
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by morganb

What about something like a Tsubaba? Custom carbon and very light.

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Lelandjt
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by Lelandjt

ultimobici wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:00 am
Lelandjt wrote:RCA was soooo sweet. A custom may "fit" you better but it won't be made as well. I know the guy who made them and he's the master of carbon.
Really? I’ve seen several bare RCa frames close up and they aren’t anything special in the quality stakes compared to top custom builders.

Just a Cervelo that is less likely to crack! ;)


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