On the other hand, I keep reading things about the Altamira's "long" headtube, but the M frame has the same HT and TT length as a CAAD10 in the same size, and a lower stack over all. Same as the Venge, Tarmac, and Foil in the same sizes as well.
So there it is. I'm having trouble deciding, and a test ride at the shop doesn't tell you much without having the stock stem swapped out and dropped/flipped, etc.
Any thoughts WWs?
I do wish my headtube was a wee bit shorter (it's 12cm) but I just threw a -17 stem on it and I'm happy. The only thing I will say is that the cone spacer/bearing cover that comes with the headset, a rebranded FSA orbit C40, is rather tall ~1.5cm so keep that in mind if you want some serious drop but most of those aftermarket "slam that stem"/veloflyte/etc bearing cover-spacer-things will work fine on the frame or you can just slam it on the bearings which is what I do. I'm planning on taking a dremel to mine some time later this week and seeing if i can shave off some height though because I dont like the idea of exposing that to the elements.
I'm scarred from having been on an ill-fitting bike for so long.
I can only speak personally for the altamira, but eight of my team mates are on the SST, and they have nothing but praise as well.
What specifically are you looking for in deciding between the two?
AGW wrote:At first it just came down to "do I want a sprinter's bike or an all-rounder's bike", but then I got hung up on the geometry. They're nearly identical except for the HT length. The problem is I'm really quite flexible and quite adamant about minimizing spacers, but at the same I don't know if the SST might position me too low for my stature.
Well... I'd actually say they are quite different in geometry.
The Stack and Reach figures tell the story. The SST is longer, in every size. (SST/ALT Reach = 380/363, 375/370, 386/370, 396/379, 405/389, 418/397 ) The Altamira is quite different there. However, the stack figures are very similar. (SST/ALT Stack = 513/517, 523/528, 535/540, 555/560, 574/580, 580/600) So, its not so much about getting the drop right as getting your preferred stem length and reach.
Also, the headtube angle and fork rake differ significantly as well. This effects trail and the handling of the bike. The SST is shallower in every size, and also has less fork rake... Both of which slow down steering and make the "sprinter" bike hold its line with more resistance to change. This also effects turn in, or "flickability" The SST needs a bit more of a heavy hand, but at 40+ mph, throwing the bike around, this is a good thing. Depends on what you're looking for.
Stack and reach is the way to go, as far as fitting these frames goes. And don't forget about the 15mm headset cone spacer, which bumps up the stack and decreases the reach a bit.
I went with the M frame, 50c-t. The shop was kind enough to flip and lower the stems on both a 50 and 53 for me and let me crank out 15 minutes on each. Now I have to buy a damned scale just to show it off in the gallery
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