benefit of rear NDS radial lacing?

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WMW
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Zen Cyclery wrote:A marked disadvantage that I've noticed is that radial NDS spokes can go slack particularly with a soft rim. If you were to lace up the XR200s or the old 340s with a radial NDS, I think you would be asking for trouble.


I do it all the time. Issues to date = ZERO.

I've put over 20k miles on personal wheels (I weigh 170lbs), with the XR200 (28 CX-Rays) and the 340 (24 CX-Rays), both radial laced on the NDS, and never touched them. The 340 even dropped a lot of tension with a tire on, but I left it just to see what would happen... and nothing ever did.

The only mechanism I can see for cross lacing to keep nipples from coming loose is if you have residual binding in the nipple/rim interface. And that is something I try to prevent in order to improve the life of the rim and spoke.
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One test set with XR 200 rim (white) and 28 spokes has radial NDS. No problems - but nipples are secured with loctite. Wheelset is stiff and true after more than 12.000km

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WMW wrote:
Zen Cyclery wrote:A marked disadvantage that I've noticed is that radial NDS spokes can go slack particularly with a soft rim. If you were to lace up the XR200s or the old 340s with a radial NDS, I think you would be asking for trouble.


I do it all the time. Issues to date = ZERO.

I've put over 20k miles on personal wheels (I weigh 170lbs), with the XR200 (28 CX-Rays) and the 340 (24 CX-Rays), both radial laced on the NDS, and never touched them. The 340 even dropped a lot of tension with a tire on, but I left it just to see what would happen... and nothing ever did.

The only mechanism I can see for cross lacing to keep nipples from coming loose is if you have residual binding in the nipple/rim interface. And that is something I try to prevent in order to improve the life of the rim and spoke.


sorry for dragging up an old thread but I'm looking at building up a 340 wheelset laced radial NDS. Is your 340 12 each side, or 16 drive, 8 NDS. Have you had any problems with stiffness?

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