fdegrove wrote:Just curious. Which manufacturer is still using latex on top of the base tape?
veloflex, at least i assume it's latex
when removing a tyre it stays stuck to the rim, leaving the basetape almost clean of it, mostly bare fabric
putting a layer of glue over it allows another tyre to be fitted ok, but the stuff becomes a squidgy mess that oozes out under pressure
when time comes to remove the second tyre, it too leaves behind all the latex, at that point i give up and clean the rim back
i haven't bought any tyres for a while, and still have a couple waiting to have the stuff scraped off, if they've stopped using it it'd be nice
Just curious. Which manufacturer is still using latex on top of the base tape?
My last set of Vittoria Corsa CX tubulars had latex on top of the base tape - this, plus the large seam made for a not-so-confident installation.
I've since switched to Continental tubulars (GP4000) and am quite pleased with this setup. The combination of the cotton base tape, seamless construction (interfaces better with the edges of the rim), and Mastik One glue make removing these tires a painful experience - which is exactly what I want
743power wrote:Fdegrove- vittorias have it. Leaves you a nice present on the rim when changing tires.
On the majority of their road tyres Vittoria is not using latex on top of the base tape but a rather more complex protection which basically acts as a fungicide and acts as a capital investor at the same time. It make their tyres harder to repair manually.
PM me or try to repair some manually if you're stuck.
As I recall the only source that was ever mentioned on this forum was based in the US.
They offer a number of twill woven fabrics that are similar to what you'd find on a tubular.
Before I go digging through the forum's database though, did you really remove all of the base tape of that tub?
If so, is there any good reason to put it back on?
The reason I'm asking is that it sure is not easy to put a base tape back on straight and it also takes a cement that stays supple enough and is up to the task. Barge cement has been mentioned for this which is also availble in the US. Not sure if it can be shipped abroad.
In my days we'd use carpet layers cement for this which was latex based. I suspect this is still being used but quite frankly I have no idea where to get it from nowadays. Furthermore, if and when you'd find such cement it will invariably be offered in such large volumes big enough to serve an entire planet and then some.
After all the only function of a base tape is to protect the stitches....
I bring a can of Vittotia PittStop sealant and a used tire as spare. The sealant is hit or miss -- but will most likely fix small punctures. If it doesn't work, use the spare.
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(probably) glass-inflicted puncture on a Sprinter. I had to leave it a number of times a few hours at a time with the hole on the floor leaning against the wall, as it started leaking after I moved it (3 times perhaps). I only put in less than 15ml, and pumped up to 100psi (I usually ride 90). Sweet as after that, and I'm only riding it once a week. I would've been happy to throw it out, but a little bit of experimentation/perseverance has resulted in an extra 1,000km or so.
There are other threads discussing light/small spares eg Tufo and Conti TT Podium. I find that Vitt CX folds easily.
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