I have heard bad things about the placement of the chamois in Champ Sys bibs and the fit. They make sense for smaller orders, but for the price we think we can get better elsewhere.
The first two i would never touch again, its just garbage.
Champ Sys, is okay and we had 2 orders through them, but they were a PITA to deal with. Delivery dates, prices always altering etc...Fit was very variable too, especially in the shorts dept.
I'd give a big thumbs up to Giordana. Whilst its not at their formaRed standards, but neither is the price, the club level kit fits and feels great. I think it ended up being only a fraction dearer than the others but the trade off is definitely worth it.
I think first order is 20 of each item (tops and shorts), and after that only 10 is needed. Socks, arm warmers etc are different but they arent massively important or expensive.
They came back with choices of artwork, a decent delivery date, which was actually beaten in the 2 times we have used them, and to date we haven't had to send kit back that has been of poor quality.
Minimum orders used to be huge but thankfully they've addressed that, and i think we will be using them for a long time to come
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The best part was that once it was in their system users could log in to place their orders and not have to deal with one person placing the order and taking money etc.
Now I'm not sure how smooth it would be that you are on the other side of the world
petal666 wrote:Product is OK for the price, it isn't top notch. There is far better kit out there.alexb618 wrote:.... with champ sys and they are excellent to deal with and their product is top notch too
i would love if CS would use the fabric that assos use in their shorts but everything else is excellent. even our (current) elite world, national and state champions all rate their CS equipment that we provide to them as better than the products they are required to wear due to sponsorship (big italian name is one example)
Our road club uses Santini, however they only seem to be able to get the cheapest bib model that has a terrible chamios, jersey are quite good however.
MTB club uses Chamopion System, and I agree with other comments that it is really cheap stuff.
Am moving to Adelaide shortly and joining Norwood CC, anyone know what brand they use so I might save myself the effort of buying a terrible bib?
There are some guys called Pedla that had the same frustrations we all seem to have and are on a mission to create custom kit that rivals or exceeds the best out there - materials, chamois and fit. email@example.com is one of the guys behind it.
They are pretty new but I think that they have already done kit for Fyxo and Shifter Bikes in Melbourne and those guys will be fussy.
They'll be the next ones I will be trying for our team kit.
Some comments made about Champion System material quality I feel are incorrect. We source all our fabrics from Italy, Switzerland and Japan and due to our global buying power have great ability to access top end materials from other mills globally. We then take those materials and independently test them for moisture management, UV and other variables - only then will we use them. Our jersey range for example has over 5 models each varying in materials used from our standard CS TEch Jersey through to our RAZOR jersey with 4 different fabrics. These models are at different prices to fit your budget no matter what it is. Perhaps our CS TECH jersey feels too heavy? Then you could try our CS AIR jersey? Our standard bibs are maybe too 'standard' for you? Try our Razor or Elite Pro bibs.
Another example of our quality is our Chamois - again I understand that not everyone will love our chamois - this is possibly the most personal aspect of a cycling kit. Our all new 2013 Endurance chamois was designed from scratch in consultation with our partners TMF in Italy - it truly is a nice bit of kit. We dont buy off the shelf products - we innovate and create to satisfy the majority of you out there.
What quality issues or questions do you have ? Please send me an email directly firstname.lastname@example.org I am more than happy to answer or respond to any of your questions or queries. Members of this forum who have mentioned they are not happy with Champ Sys quality please let me know what aspect you dont like and why - give me the chance to respond. Constructive feedback is what makes us thrive.
Thanks for reading and the opportunity to post
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