The long version: I am toying with getting a race specific wheelset for a hill climb in seven weeks (and more as the season progresses). Currently, I weigh in about 149-150 and race weight is morel like 143-145. I mention this detail only as the set I was considering ordering (HED Belgium Tubular rims laced to Tune 70/170 hubs in 24/28 coming in at 1350 g) is probably strong enough even for training given my relatively light weight.
But... here's the other shoe.
I want to ride more often with tubulars. Better feel, better cornering (I'm becoming a reasonable climber but remain a shit descender, not that tubulars will fix that), fewer pinch flats, etc. I like the old school appeal, etc. Yet (insert shoe), in some ways training with heavier clinchers makes the "race wheels" seem so much more magical. Would it make more sense to build up heavier tubulars or just keep rolling on my Ksyriums? Swapping the Tunes for R45s might be heavier and more reliable. But... I don't know. At a quandary with this one.
Anyone have any experience regarding this setup?
Absolutely no reason why you shouldn't ride on them in training. A Conti Gatorskin and a tube is close to the price of a Gatorskin tub - which will puncture first is probably just a crapshoot.
Before that (on clinchers) I would flat about 6 times a year.
And out of those six or so flats, one would be a puncture. The other 5 would be random blowouts, pinch flats, rim strips shifting, etc.
I've had one flat since riding tubulars, and it was a puncture. I patched it in about 20 minutes after riding my spare home.
Personally, the pros outweigh the cons for tubulars.
I don't think I'll be switching back to clinchers for a long time.
I want to ride more often with tubulars. Better feel, better cornering (I'm becoming a reasonable climber but remain a shit descender, not that tubulars will fix that
IMHO training and descending on tubular tyres may well turn you into a faster descender as tubulars will build up your confidence. In yourself and in the tech inherent to tubulars.
But I kept reading these darn threads (and on Velocipede Salon) about tubulars, so decided to build up the classic set -- 32 spoke Nemesis on silver Campy Chorus (couldn't rationalize the cost difference to go silver Record) and put on Veloflex Roubaixs. Wore out the rear (cords showing) and the front is going strong. I won't say that I didn't puncture this season, but let's just say I didn't change tires except for the worn Roubaix.
The ride on the C2/Open Pave/latex tubes is fairly comparable to my tubular set up, and the weight with the bulletproof Nemesis is about the same too. But I'm much more confident on crappy stuff and cornering, and no longer worry about a catastrophic blowout and rapid deflation while descending or moving in a fast group.
Bottom line -- anyone want to buy a set of A23s on Ultegra 6600 hubs? I only want to keep one set of clinchers to ride on my CX/rain bike....
So -- go for it. Get a nice set of alloy tubulars; Hed C2, Ambrosio Nemesis (or Montreals -- lighter but still durable and less expensive if you can give up the fancy etchings), or Velocity Escapes. You won't regret riding tubulars all the time.
Having said that i have been on clinchers since november and havent flatted yet. Gp4000s is excellent.
The moral of the story is 'Handmade in Germany'!
But unless you like inconvenience and and have money to spare why bother...personally I'd keep singles for race day & stick with some nice clinchers...
He was a character!
Bingomck wrote:Would any of you recommend commuting on tubs as well? Or is that just too far?
Maybe if you have perfect conditions most of the time on your way to work, and can ride a nice tyre. Running Gatorskin tubs just for the sake of running something sewn-up is not worth it.
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