I tend to be pretty comfy on the PRO Round, but for a crit of 60-90 mins in the drops my hands sometimes will go numb. Lucky for me, I am on the hoods for the majority of my riding. Honestly, a ergo bar like the 3T Ergonova would be a better fit for me, but I so love the looks of traditional drops. LOL.
Zipp's classic shapes are nice as well, but I think the reach looks long. Correct me if I am wrong.
spinwax wrote:For a real classic bar, the Ritchey Classic or 3T Rotundo. Unfortunately many folks like the drops, but the transition to the hoods is terrible and people end up rotating them up to bring the hoods to a more natural position. The bars are not designed to do this and it looks terrible (please folks, quit doing this. It looks lame).
please...explain? Especially the "bars are not designed to do this" part. Is this one of those bar drops pointed to rear hub VS. drops parallel with ground issues?
Pro CXer Todd Wells should try a different bar because this looks like crap! What he is trying to do, is get a flat transition to the hoods. Wrong bar to do this with. Sure he did it, but now the drop is so far angled down it makes reaching the brakes tougher, moves the hook up so much you can hit your forearms on the tops. It doesn't make a bit of sense.
This looks better.
eBut who am I to tell anyone what is right? People need to do what they want to do.
In the old days, every single bike had handlebars that were the traditional round bar, and almost always, the flats where parrallel to the ground.
In about 95 or so, the new fangled ergo bars came about, with a kink early in the flats which then went flat to the hood clamps. Most bike shops still sold these bars with the last bit of the flats still parallel to the ground.
Pro's started using the new bars, but they found the 'flat part in the drops' was at such a wierd angle that they felt they had to angle their wrists forward just to hold the bar. Loss of power was the result as the riders couldn't pull on the bars in a proper fist/forearm grip.
So, they started angling the bars up by about 15 degrees, allowing the 'flat part in the drops' to be in a more natural, and powerful grip for the fist/forearm.
From there, everyone started copying them, because it was actually a better angle, even though it moved the drops further away, and the hoods slightly closer.
Then, bike shops started selling bikes with the ergo bars always angled up...
And then new riders, who preferred the shape of the old round bar, started copying the ergo bar guys...
20 years ago I was riding a round bar, and these days I still ride a round bar. All my bikes have the bars parallel to the ground. I have tried an ergo bar in the early days when the last flat bit was parallel to the ground, and it just felt absolutely awful for sprinting with in the drops.
When I sprint, I really get my hands up in the drops. It absolutely feels awesome for power through my back while braced with my arms in that position.
I also 'track sprint' in a way, even in road sprints, so when I sit down after the jump, and spin up the gear further, my forearms are parallel to the ground, and the back is flat. And even then i'm still pulling on the bars.
I'm glad the round bar is still around, but I too don't get why you would buy a round bar, then angle it up.
We now have compact bars, which kinda combine the two bar shapes. They actually don't look too bad, and are probably pretty effective for road racing and such.
Anyway, that's my history lesson for the day
Don't get me started on 'compact' frames... 20 years ago, the 'angled down to seattube' frames indicated it was a girls bike. lol
Also not sure if you've seen Wells race, but he doesn't really use the drops much.
Maybe you all have it as a reference already though...
http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-d ... -geometry/
I prefer the Deda Newton Deep or 3T Rotundo. The Rotundo is a little shallower (medium drop really) but the Newton Deep has a lovely flat transition into the lever hood.
Cinelli VRC shape bars are also worth a look. They're not a true classic bend but they're not far off.
If you set the shifters up with a straight edge off the bottom of the drops- the shifters are too low.
If you raise the shifters up higher, they start angling out way further than the bars themselves.
nice to see my choice confirmed here.
How many drivers does a buggy have?
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
spinwax wrote:Most CXers don't use the drops much. Still no reason to run that bar if you can't utilize it like it was meant to be used. All I am saying is, there are better options out there than trying to make a bar do something it wasn't designed to do.
I think we're all grown up enough to use/rotate whatever bar we want.
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Quite like Ritchey classic bars and Deda 215shallow bars. The 215 bars are a 26.0mm clamp diameter though which restricts your stem choice though.
The TdF was just won in bars set up like that.
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