I am looking for some information on the following frames:
2013/4: Cannodale Supersix Evo Nano & Hi-Mod & The Parlee Z5 SLi
If anyone has been lucky enough to ride all three, then a comparison would be great!
I'm particularly interested in your thoughts on BB stiffness and how the frames feel under load when climbing
or sprinting I am aware there are other factors to consider in terms of the riders weight, wheels chainset etc. but
I am still interested in opinions.
I'm planning to build one of the following for early next year but I am undecided as yet. I will be able to test the Z5 SLi but
it's unlikely that I'll be able to try the SS EVO Nano. I currently ride a non Hi-Mod SS EVO which I really enjoy and Pinarello Dogma 65.1 which I like but not enough to keep so it is now for sale (frame only or with SR EPS installed - Size 56 PM if you're interested). Somewhere between the two would be great in terms of BB stiffness and comfort but no less than the SS EVO.
2014 Cannodale SS Evo
I know friends who have ridden the Parlee and the EVO and said it was close (but the Z5SL edged it)
Currently about to push the button on either the Cannondale SS Evo Black Inc. or Parlee Z5SLi. The pros and cons as I see them are:
Cannondale – comparatively good value. Great components, but wheels are tubular which is an issue for me (historic issues with some C35’s – both loved and hated them) and the fit is quite aggressive for the rides I do – mostly 75-100milers, flat and hilly. Super light, so would help me on next year’s Marmotte!
Parlee – I would port over my Zipp 202 clinchers, and go for DA Di2, but even without wheels this would still cost around the same as the Cannondale. Endless good reviews for this frame, and there aren’t many around, but feels like I’ll get less for more money… And where do you even start on a custom paint job??!
I’m no expert, just looking to treat myself to a nice bike that’ll last for 5 years or so…any thoughts would be very gratefully received!
2015 Colnago C60 RSWH Campag Chorus & Mavic SLR (c.7kg)
I would buy the one that floats your boat the most... Evo black inc is a very nice frame but i think the Parlee has it on finishing and longevity. I really like the idea that in a few years you can ship it back for a checkup and respray. Can't really do that with big manufacturers.
Overall, I'm so impressed with the Bura SL that I'm looking at a Nazare (aka Alize) to add to my stable.
Oh, forgot to add… without adding any WW parts (3T Ergonova Team bars, a ARX team stem, a pig of a seat post, although I guess the EE brakes are WW approved…), my Bura is just over 13lbs and that's with a Quarq power meter. My wife's Parlee Z5 SLi is lighter (although that's an XS/Tall, built with Super Record EPS, 3T Ergonova Ltd, MCFK seat post, Gravitas brakes, etc. etc. etc.) at just under 12lbs.
I have to say there are days where I do not want to get off this bike or come home. That I get angry that my girlfriend finishes work at 7pm, and she expects me to pick her up from work. I get really pissed off when I look out the window in the morning and it is raining.
It is testament to the bike that I feel this way. That I can ride 150km plus a day at my age (52). It does everything very, very well, and sometimes I chuckle to myself while riding that I find myself on a decently fast descent and that I didn't even realise I had been climbing beforehand.
At 56kg and coming from a marathon background, I’m hardly gifted with huge amounts of raw power, but again I smile to myself while riding that you can sometimes feel the bike jump forward as I pedal. It was one of the best investments I have ever made.
I’m in the process also of upgrading components on the bike. The ENVE products are great but there is a real possibility that I can get this bike below 5kg at some point. Seating area has been upgraded to AX-Phoenix and 2100 seatpost. New MCFK stem and Schmolke TLO bar are on their way as we speak. Next up will be a look at the new eebrake coming out very soon. Then the little things like cabling, bar tape etc.
The biggest issue I will have is finding a set of wheels that are better than the ENVE 3.4 that came with the bike. These were the first things I was going to change on the bike, but I have to say the wheels are amazing, and for one main reason, how they ride in winds at different angles. In Vienna and in many parts of Austria there is always a wind present. It comes off the mountains. Riding a bike that weighs 5.4kg and a rider being sometimes as low as 54kg, winds and deeper rims are a real pain in the backside for me. These are the best wheels I have come across and I am very reluctant to change them.
For the record, when I did my research for a new bike, I actually came across the weightweenies site, and the other bikes that really interested me were the Parlee and RCA. No Parlee dealers in tiny Austria, though it was very high on the agenda. The Black Inc. might be the closest thing to riding a Parlee without it being a Parlee.
greentimgreen, quite important, do check the colour scheme of the 2015 Black Inc. as opposed the 2013 and 2014 models. It is the same spec bike as 2014, but I prefer the smaller ‘dale’ logo on the older models. If you prefer the older colour scheme, you might get a good deal very soon?
I agree with you Cuki on the small gold logos on the Cannondale, and the price has already dropped from £8500 to £7000 which is tempting enough. However I'm inspired by another post on the Weight Weenies site - a chap who has painted a glossy finish (grey/pink) Z5SLi and still come in at 6.0kgs. For me, the opportunity to have something unique to me (even if it might eventually be matte black with small decals a la the Cannondale!) probably wins out.
Final decision will be made this weekend, however if I go down the Parlee route the bike won't arrive till September as i'm waiting for the 'refreshed' Z5sli with more clearance for Zipp Firecrests / 25mm tyres - August is going to feel like a long month...
2015 Colnago C60 RSWH Campag Chorus & Mavic SLR (c.7kg)
And it is something that is quite special about Parlee's in general, that they stand out from the crowd without being so blatantly obvious. Beautiful bikes to look at and to ride.
It is important, you have to live with it, you have to want to ride it.
What ever you choose, and both are great choices, I hope you have the same experiences as I do. That you feel special, and that you don't want to come home.
The problem with these halo bikes with good wheels is that serious riders already have good wheels.
Is the black inc. available as a frame+fork?
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