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S Works Shoes - A$280 from Evans Cycles UK
In Australia, A$450
The reason for the price is because of the Aus dealers. The dealers are the one asking for price pertection . I could really care less. If I dont like something I dont buy it. How often do you go into a TREK store and find other lower priced brands or any at all.
Cielo by Chris King Cross Racer
But if you had a retailer with more power then Specialized than the retailer would dictate terms. Look at the golf industry. Giant retailers (Golf Town, etc.) now call the shots and brands must compete to be there. Category killers is the technical term. A killer in the sense that they eliminate all small independent competition. However I don't know if the bike business is big enough to support a category killer. Small independent shops may be a permanent fixture of the cycling industry and if so they will continue to be a the mercy of more powerful manufacturers and distributors. Although if you bought every bike shop in a major geographic area you would be on your way.
wheelsONfire wrote: When we ride disc brakes the whole deal of braking is just like a leaving a fart. It happens and then it's over. Nothing planned and nothing to get nervous for.
I've had positive experiences with all my Specialized products.
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Trek, Bontrager, Cannondale, Cervelo and Specialized all in one store?! Such madness!
Where is the black magic you speak of ?!?
Except the weird part was they didn't: somehow they manage to still purchase saddles and shoes from Spec and that is all... It's a great setup but very different from anything I have seen.
Illuminate wrote:Yep, they won't let their products be exported across international boundaries .
This is not exclusive to Specialized, many companies in many fields do not allow cross border sales...
Fox Shox does it, Santa Cruz does it, etc, etc.
PedalinFool wrote:Pretty much agree with the general consensus. My beef with them is that no matter what you go into a shop looking for they end up shoving a Specialized product down your throat before you even finish telling them what you were looking for in particular. I went in for some Fizik microtex in white specifically so it wouldnt get dirty as easily/often, and the shop guy tried to talk me into black Specialized tape even though i mentioned several times i wanted white, and that i wanted it to match my white saddle. BTW i dont dislike Spedialized products, i ride a Romin carbon saddle and like it a lot, as well as having an Allez for awhile. I just dont agree with the way they push so hard and basically dismiss other brands in my personal experiences
Really this is an issue with your lbs or that sales person being bad at his job.
I know this thread is about hating Specialized and all but they aren't really doing things that others In the cycling industry or other industries haven't done or are doing...
PedalinFool wrote:Pretty much agree with the general consensus. My beef with them is that no matter what you go into a shop looking for they end up shoving a Specialized product down your throat before you even finish telling them what you were looking for in particular.
Even though you may have had a bad LBS, you brought up an experience I had a few months ago I didn't think much of at the time.
I asked specifically about buying a CAAD10 frameset, and not only did the salesperson seem disinterested, saying "that's not what you want" (without me saying anything about my needs) but almost immediately tried to push me to a Specialized complete bike even though I expressed zero interest in buying a complete CAAD10, let alone another bike.
Said dealer sells Cannondale, Specialized, Giant, Felt, Pinarello and Storck.
2012 Cannondale CAAD10
swiftvelo wrote:Yep, they won't let their products be exported across international boundaries also.
Almost all my cycling purchases are over the Internet.
I like some of their products (e.g. shoes, gloves, saddles) but as it is almost impossible to purchase Specialized over the Internet (internationally) I expect they will continue to loose my sales.
... Their loss, someone elses gain.
Why is it Specialized gets all the bad press? Trek and Cannodale do the same thing as well Giant. Is Specialized is the only company that make this info public? Having worked with Cannodale and Giant they were both great. Never worked with Trek but have had many a friend/customer tell me about the poor service they have recieved when there was a warr issue.
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