Record feels perfect, classy but not too much like a Super Record group. The frame isn't made for electronic so won't be nice with EPS. Shimano is just slow and Sram feels a little boring as everyone talks about it and think it's the coolest.
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Recommending something that most people have ridden for 10 minutes at best is a little premature for mine.
My recommendation, Record 11. SR is overkill and you're already set up with Campag wheels.
Also you said that you want a powermeter and red has the quarq that is designed to work with it flawlessly (all though I haven't tried it and don't really know if it is any better than the SRM option or the old quarq).
The one thing that I wouldn't get sram though is the cassette; I ride all shimano in that regard. The old SRAM red is so freaking loud its almost unbearable.
My second choice would be Super Record 11 speed; my dad has it on his bikes and loves it, I have ridden it a few time when I was out in Colorado visiting him and the ergonomics of the shifters and the shifts themselves are divine. He is running a FSA crank on there as well and it still shifts great even with symmetry. I have talked to him about the upkeep and it does seem like SR need alot more (and more frequent) adjustment to keep shifting like that. Replace the chain or at least add a quick link so you don't have to get that stupid proprietary tool and super record is a really attractive option. Plus you are coming from Campy already, which is a huge plus for this option. You are probably pretty good at servicing their parts and know how they all go together; it seems like each company has their own little quirky designs that you have to learn before you can really tune a machine up and it might be nice to avoid that. It would also give you familiar contact points, changing ergonomics can really throw you off while adjusting.
The reason I wouldn't get Shiamano is because the system just seems to unique. It might work like a dream but you can't make the bike your own as much when everything has to be da 9000 to work correctly. I'm talking about the new bolt pattern on the crank, the different cable pull ratios and all that jazz. So I guess that could be a plus or a minus depending on how you look at it; like Tinea Pedis said I'm sure it will be an awesome groupset but its untested and you might end up with a carbon copy bike. said I just know that I find alot of the fun of cycling comes from the tinkering and the personalization of your rides to match your own style and panache.
I think when it really comes down to it though, all three big companies groups are going to be just about perfect so you should just go by what looks good on your bike and by what is the most comfortable for you, shifter shape and shift feel wise.
Good luck in your decision and I hope I helped!
Personally I would wait for DA 9000, but that's purely because I irrationally like Shimano products.
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Guyeclipse wrote:To me, I think if you are passionate about bikes, you really need to go for SRAM or Campy. I like these two brands because they offer great performance to price ratios, and above all I believe they offer a better feel than the slightly soulless Shimano products.
Why soulless? It sure has more history than SRAM. SRAM has loud graphics, perhaps that's "soul"?
Something to consider:
Shimano works very well and it's widely available, LBS with parts and experience are found everywhere, and good service. Also, the distributeurs usually can deliver parts fast.
Campa works just as good, but the availabilty at local shops is a BIG issue. You are usually out of luck if you break something on vacation
SRAM also works fine and is more available then Campa, but (at least in Europe) a lot worse than Shimano in coverage by local shops.
Now I personally tend to rent bikes on vacation (a mountainbike is very versatile and fun!). Also, I live in the capital and have an LBS who is a Campa specialist (and two other shops who carry the brand on the other side of town if ), so I'm a happy Campy owner. But if there weren't shops near that could service it I wouldn't have gone for Campy.
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"Which group" threads always head the same direction: To shit.
How about this: ride whatever you want and you are happy with, let other people decide for themselves without trashing another brand/marque/level?
How about people focus on the positives - like riding their bikes - instead of entrenching themselves into pointless arguments surrounding brand loyalty or personal perception projected onto others as facts?
You like a brand? Great. Say why.
You don't like another brand that you aren't using for some reason that is entirely personal? So why do you go out of your way to declare it?
Why not just post the positives of what you like, let others decide for themselves.
Zen Cyclery wrote:ParisCarbon wrote:.electronics are garanteed to fail at some point..
One could easily argue the same about mechanical parts.
Agreed, everything fails at some point.
I too will never use electronic shifting. I work in an industry that puts electronics in an environment that electronics does not like. The eguipment is exposed to heat, dirt, oil, grease, dst and vibration and as our equipment ages we have equipment failures that 99% of the issues are electrically related including failed processors. Interestingly enough bikes are exposed to the environment. Statistically your chances are greater with electronics for failure due to the complexity.
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