Can anyone help with advice?
I am on my THIRD Record 10 Sp Front Derailleur (the crappy carbon one) that has (AGAIN) broken at the back-end, that stupid little piece that slides/screws onto the back of the cage.... they keep breaking - this time when chain slid off the front ring, pop! Another 150 bucks down the [beep] drain....
These Derailleurs ABOSULUTLEY SUCK
Has anyone found a fix? Campy won't supply the 5 cent piece to me and says I have to buy a WHOLE NEW Der.!
So for those who have experienced it, is there a trick to repairing these?
OR should I just look for an older gen. all-metal part and buy that instead? If so, what is compatible w 10 sp QS Ultra? I think 2008 Record was metal? Or at least Chorus was? What about a triple? would that work jus as well?
I am running a Compact front w 11-25 rear cassette
Reason: Little bit of profanity removed.
Send a picture of your set up and broken FD if you can.
Are you using a chain catcher on your frame? Sounds like it might be good idea for you.
no chian catch but maybe need it, chain fell off the front and slid down the crank arm and then pop... its my 3rd to break (other one in a crash and the other during a hard-shift uphill under power - not an ideal shift maybe but should never have broken, really c'mon its Campy Record if it can't support a shift uphill then thats a sad statement)
Guy at the bike shop says he's seen this too and recommends getting an older gen metal front der. but wasn;t sure what years/models would be optimal.
thanks for any advice on repairs or replacement
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gitsome wrote:no chian catch but maybe need it, chain fell off the front and slid down the crank arm and then pop... its my 3rd to break (other one in a crash and the other during a hard-shift uphill under power - not an ideal shift maybe but should never have broken, really )
You don't know what you're doing.
And half of my point, regardless of how and why something like thid happend, is wondering why its not readily replaceable and how to improvise a solution.
Thanks to the rest, I am reminded why so many quit posting WW
'Tape was made to wrap your GF's gifts, NOT hold a freakin tire on.'
Thats why you have to buy the whole cage part. This is one of the reasons why I don't use front derailleur with carbon cage.
At the price it costs replacing the cage, might as well go with a full front derailleur. The cages are swapable so you can get a full alu chorus cage and install it on you record derailleur. I've done it several times. I have a front super record derailleur with a chorus 10s cage installed on it to run on my 10s record groupo.
I also suggest you adjust carefully your front derailleur and also try to shift less in power especially going uphill. install a chain catcher just to be safe. With an aluminum cage you won't break it thats for sure.
To be consistent with the etiquette of this form, some of us simply chimed in to correct your claims about design flaw and point out that the apparent flaws were actually linked to your riding style and mechanical abilities...the Campagnolo frt der was simply the collateral damage of your choices.
The only flaw I have witnessed and heard about on this forum regarding Campagnolo frt ders is cosmetic, linked to carbon peeling from the front plate. Also, I do recall a famous Belgian being sidelined last year in the Forest of Arenberg when his chain found its way out from between the cages of the frt dear and then he was unable to thread the chain back on the big chainring (see: http://cimacoppirides.files.wordpress.c ... mchain.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ). The only way the chain could have found its way out of the cage was if the same tab you describe broke off, HOWEVER, Boonen's post-race report indicated that he experienced chain drop and he had to yank the chain to get it unstuck from between his chainrings and chain catcher or threaded back onto small chainring from behind the chain catcher (reports are unclear). I suspect his chain yanking perhaps resulted in a broken frt der tab when the chain was finally liberated, but we will never know exactly.
I suspect that if there was a real design flaw in Campagnolo's frt carbon ders we would have heard about it here and also seen component workarounds in the pro ranks...I am referring to "real" pros here. Just like we see pros opting for the retrofitted steel cage Sram Red front ders instead of the OEM carbon cage model, we would see all Campagnolo Record/Super Record equipped pro teams opting for equipment modifications as well...we simply do not see that because it is not a design flaw.
Lastly, I still think that my constructive suggestion to fashion a tab out of plastic and epoxy is a do-able solution.
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