R330 ML Weight?
R330 L Weight?
See on here NSPACES M weigh in at 1487g
Like the idea of the R330's stiffness but the R230 seems like it may come in lighter.
Interesting difference in weight between yours and NSPACE - Did yours have the press-fit Alu insert in the seat tube?
I wonder if the amount of butting a tubeset gets varies much depending on which person at Lynskey is working in your frame.
Mine is a size S but was delivered with the Cannondale Hollowgram SISL compact cranks so I did not bother weighing it.
My complete built-up bike came in at 7.2 kg or 15.6 lbs, with pedals, bottle cages, computer, and 28/32 clincher training wheels.
2013 Parlee Z1 with DA 9070
2013 Lynskey Helix OS II with SRAM Red
If I remember correctly my M/L Helix OS frame was 1500 grams but the headset was already pressed in.
Tug Boat - Thanks for the figures.
Had a chat with Lynskey later today and it seems that the stiffness and weight of the R330 vs R230 are comparable. The R230 is more readily available in the UK so may head that way in the end. Keeping my eyes peeled for an R330 though.
What I did discover in my thread was that previous generations were lighter. Someone mentioned theirs broke at the chainstays and they got another which was 30-40g heavier if I recall correctly. Presumably, they added more material.
Did you ask them about weights when you talked? Lynskey, as much as I like them, they always seem kind of sketchy about weights or even giving you a ball park. They don't publish anything it seems. They announced the R210 UL shortly after I bought my R330. UL was supposed to stand for Ultra Light, but to date, they haven't posted any weights. In my books, if you are going to call something UL you should be prepared to give a few more details than that.
I wouldn't be surprised anyways if they are building frames a tad beefier now, based on various readings. That said, I love my R330. Not a fan of helix tubes on their Helix frames, but this is the only frame they make where I don't mind them, they are very subtle and only on the seat stays. I wasn't a big fan of the aesthetics (given the choice of the 2) of the curved stays so I went for the R330. Originally I actually had the R230 on order, and it wasn't due until mid June, so I changed my order to the R330 when a window opened up. I suspect they build this bikes in waves to and re-tool for certain models all at once based on demand/production schedules.
R230 is definitely more readily available. Its interesting to note that ordering direct through Lynskey they quoted me mid June as I mentioned, for the R230. Maybe 2 months into the weight, with another 2 months to go, I noticed Chain Reaction had a full stocking of R230 sizes. Their dealers are also in their build queue, which was something I didn't consider. Had I continued the path of buying the R230, I would have been a tad frustrated to know that I could get the frame in a matter of days while they had my non-refundable deposit for the next 2 months. Anyways, not knocking them for it, but I assumed direct would be quicker, which is not always the case—but it sounds like you already figured that out.
Whichever way you go, I am sure you will love the bike!
I definitely like the hooded dropouts. The plate drop outs would be lighter, but IMO the cloverleaf thing they do is a bit tacky and unslightly. Some standard looking windows would look a hell of a lot better. I have been tempted on my hooded drop outs to file out a little part for my skewer to fit in to (in the mid point between the chain and seatstays), but I am not brave enough
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