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JensW wrote:gumgardner wrote:I'm not 100% sure I believe that weight.
i gues will will find out i can just say that they weight that they mention on the site on the Alize and diablo frames is pretty spot on. my alize, in the painted version (that should be heavier), was 1036 grams for a 56 (they say 1040 gram). it was the same with diablo. so i don´t se why they would lie about this, specially considering that it was lighter from the beginning, and that they say sub 750 gram, and not i exact weight. but as i said, we will se in september
Interesting thing about Mike Pryde. He is not down with industry BS and in the case of the Diablo and Alize he insisted on publishing real world weights. Not only did they weight size Large and not size Medium but also with derailleur hanger and all frame hardware installed. I tend to take him serious when he publishes weight.
It looks like the offspring of a Parlee and BMC, with a bit of Scott thrown in. But that's no surprise as everyone begins to use the same CAD packages, same CFD and same materials in the same factories, tested in roughly the same ways...
So in the end the only difference will be brand, customer service, paint and how much warranty risk you're willing to take.
cwdzoot wrote:Interesting thing about Mike Pryde. He is not down with industry BS and in the case of the Diablo and Alize he insisted on publishing real world weights. Not only did they weight size Large and not size Medium but also with derailleur hanger and all frame hardware installed. I tend to take him serious when he publishes weight.
that´s how every frame should be weight. would be more hones to the customers.
madcow wrote:The more paint you have the more the frame weighs.
Yeah I'm a big advocate for naked carbon and I wasn't suggesting it should have some garish paint job. I just want to know what happened to beatiful naked carbon like the old Treks, Parlees, the 2x2 twill on Storcks/Spin etc. I hate the plasticy matte look on Specialized and all the new frames. It's hard to explain but I like seeing the structure of the carbon underneath with all the ugly tatty bits etc. Shiny clearcoat > Matte IMO.
On matte black: it always looks better in the flesh than in low-pixel images.
The frame looks quite promising to me. I'd love to see geometry numbers. That's always the differentiating factor these days, where the frames are otherwise so similar.
btw. guru is now selling open mold Chinese frameset. sad.
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