my new build, any suggestions

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
mikem86
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by mikem86

Trying to build up my new bike, I am decided for definite on the frame and i also want deep section wheels (preferably zipp). Below is my list of components with weights. Can anyone think of any cost effective swaps they would make to make it lighter without removing parts?!! The one weight in my list i am unsure of is the handlebar

Before anyone mentions it, i am aware of how long this took.....

Frame
Frame giant tcr advanced sl isp medium (uncut) 820
Headset
Headset cane creek 68
Top Cap specialized 12
Bolt silver 8
Spacers carbon 12
Fork
Fork giant tcr advanced sl isp fork(uncut) 330
Cranks
Arms ultegra driveside 502 crank 200 preload 4 706
BB shimano bb6700
Derailleurs
Front Sram red 58
Rear Dram red 153
Chain
Chain ultegra 256
Cassette
Cassette ultegra 234
Lockring ultegra 6
Wheels
Frt wheel Zip 404 772
Rear wheel Zipp 404 886
Pedals
Pedals look keo 2 max 260
Brakes
Front ultegra no pads 124
Pad holders ultegra no pads 26
Front pads 2 pads 12
Rear ultegra no pads 118
Pad holders ultegra no pads 26
Rear pads 2 pads 12
Levers
shft lever pair Sram red 280
Handlebars
Bars FSA Plasma Integrated Compact White 370
Bar tape/Grips specialized white black 40
Bar end plugs 2 x specialized expandable 18
Stem
Stem Included in bars
Seating
Saddle secialized toupe 143 white 215
Seatpost Included in frame
Seat collar Included in frame
cab/hous
Brake cables Standard 24
Brake housing Jagwire 70
Shift cables Standard 32
Shift housing Jagwire 52
Tires
Frt tire specialized sworks tyre 700 x 23 182
Rear tire specialized sworks tyre 700 x 23 182
Tube front specialized turbo 80mm 68
Tube rear specialized turbo 80mm 68
Misc
Bottle cage 1 specialized ribcage white 38
Bottle cage 2 specialized ribcage black 38
Cage bolts 1 specialized black 1
Cage bolts 2 specialized black 1
Misc extra
grease and such averaged 22

Total in grams 6600
Total in pounds 14.5505212

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by ultimobici

If it were mine, I'd ditch the FSA Plasma in favour of separate bars & stem. In the first place it's better to be able to adjust the angle of the bar relative to the stem, secondly FSA are notorious in their inability to read a set of scales or tell the truth.

Bottom bracket on the Advanced SL is pressfit so I think you're limited to Dura Ace.

With the money saved on the bars, upgrade top Sram Red callipers and perhaps a better crankset.

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by mikem86

I had gone with the bars for stifness but what your saying does make sense, any suggestions on bars/stem?

Also any good cranksets in mind?

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mikem86 wrote:I had gone with the bars for stifness but what your saying does make sense, any suggestions on bars/stem?

Also any good cranksets in mind?
Bars are personal. Suss out what you like the shape of and go from there.

I use Deda Zero 100 for both.

WRT cranks, Dura Ace perhaps or Red?

mikem86
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by mikem86

With the bars I'm thinking 420mm width with a shallow drop

Will see if I can get the weights for the red and DA chain set, also the red calipers and see what it does to the weight.... Would love to get it below 14.....

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by bikerjulio

I'd question frame weight. Is it real? Including seat clamp, RD hanger, cable guide, etc?

KMC XL chain.

Lighter saddle 125-150g max.

Aim for bar/stem 300-325g.

I'm trying conti 50g tubes right now.

With the wheels I guess you're going for aero over weight.
There's sometimes a buggy.
How many drivers does a buggy have?

One.

So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.

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mikem86
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by mikem86

Frame weight is correct although it's an a medium an I need a medium large.

Wheels are for aero rather than weight

Will look into saddles as well, this was just the one I had already, seems to be large jumps in prices to get any lighter

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by wolfesquire

Planet X CNC Brakes
$175
200g

mikem86
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by mikem86

good suggestion wolfesquire, hadnt seen those... have you tried them?

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I'm guessing in the coming months you'll be able to pick up red cranks and brakes off ebay and craigslist at increasingly good prices....
But you will need a new pressfit BB as well.

What are you using for QRs?
Are the specilized tires actually any good?

mikem86
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by mikem86

the tryes are really good, i would only use specialized tyres, been using them for years now and there top quality. The winter armadillo tyres are brilliant.

Was just running with the standard zipp QRs... any suggestions there?

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by sawyer

Is that frame weight verified on the scales? I'd be amazed if it is. I'd expect a M TCF to be much nearer 1KG, and I predict your build will be more like 6.9KG when built up.

Avoid the SRAM Red/Ultegra mish-mash is my main piece of advice. Will look like 5hit frankly.
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by wolfesquire

yeah, its the brakes I have and love them. The KCNC C7s are lighter, but a lot more expensive.

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by kgt

mikem86 wrote: Frame giant tcr advanced sl isp medium (uncut) 820gr

820gr? Are you sure?

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mikem86
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by mikem86

mish mash is just because i already have an ultegra groupset which i can use some of.

I have a large frame here, i will weigh it later on and see how it comes up. The medium weight came from someone else weighing it for me

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