German Technology (Shimano Electronic/Aero integration)

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
norbertl
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by norbertl

:welcome: hi deichi, nachdem ich kein deutsch kann versuch ichs mal mit englisch

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Mattias Hellöre
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by Mattias Hellöre

I´m very impressed!
Experimental Prototype

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Frankie - B
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by Frankie - B

Hi guys,

Please keep it in English. Thanks!
'Tape was made to wrap your GF's gifts, NOT hold a freakin tire on.'

norbertl
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by norbertl

I said, hallo deichi :welcome: I can`t german, now I try in english

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by Epic-o

Norbert,

I know that you do not speak english very fluently but...How did you tensioned the spokes?? Can you show us a closer pic of the spoke-rim interface? Where were the hub internals taken from?

Thanks

norbertl
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by norbertl

tension: I make the rims with carbonspokes complete but without hubtube, than I pull the rigtht and the left spokeflange apart. under tension I glue the tube in. finish :wink:
picture: no my english is so good :smartass: I like to write. the spoke is only glued on the riminsite.
the front hub internals: two barings and a carbonaxis
the rear hub interials: there are heylight parts http://www.heylight.de/produkte/produkte.htm is a good friend
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ritcheykestrel
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by ritcheykestrel

Ok, so the way you tension the wheel/spokes is similar to the way Spinergy did the Rev X wheels. They would take and push the spokes outward and lock them in place.

Not a bad way to do it.

How true are they when they come out?

norbertl
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by norbertl

the first had 2mm deviance on the brakes but now a half millimeter :mrgreen:

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by ritcheykestrel

Not bad. How about the vertical? .5mm also?

I am curious about the rim, what kind is it? Also, why are there 2 different versions shown for the rear? One with traditional spokes and one with a carbon disc?

What does the production version look like or how it will be finished?

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by Epic-o

That is just the opposite way to how Carbonsports build their wheels...

I wouldn´t trust very much in gluing the flanges with the hub body...but you know which one is the best method

Pics of the rim-spokes interface please...
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norbertl
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by norbertl

yes the vertical its not a problem, the big problem from the rear wheel is the flat angle from the right spokes. I need a adjustable system. I have right fixt glued carbon spokes and left normaly steel spokes.
the wheels are only for my and good friends not a production.
the gluing parts (spoke and rim and flange) I made a stress test. its broken by 1500 N

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Deichradler
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by Deichradler

A new Frame is born
Weight 748 Gram incl. integrated Seatpost/Saddelcombination
Norberts new Toy 8)

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More Informations under: http://www.nlbcarbon.blogspot.com/

Take a look at the first Video of the EHBE
http://www.e-h-b-e.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=230%3Aeindruecke-und-bilder&catid=55%3Aprogram&Itemid=60&lang=de
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dmleft
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by dmleft

Very Nice!

is it built for BB30, or will it use a custom BB? Also, what is going on with the drop outs? Are they a normal style? They look sort of like they will accommodate a through axle. . . ?

Very impressive!

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marnik
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by marnik

respect
thats a realy nice frame.

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range
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by range

This whole thread is impressive. Really interesting carbon fiber bits and frames.
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