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I previously rode a 2002 Giant TCR that weighed about 12.7lbs with some of the components that I have transferred to this frame. I took advantage of the new frame to get some new cranks (BB30), and a few other odds and ends. As the Giant had quite a sloping top tube, I like the more "traditional" geometry of the Ultimate with its almost horizontal toptube. The seat tube is 73.5deg, the headtube 73deg. This is a 58cm frame with 56.7cm top tube. The finish is matte UD carbon fiber.
With AX Lightness SRT42 wheels (built by Nico-thanks!)
Weight with Veloflex Extremes: 5.28Kg (11.7lbs)
With Edge 1.25 (built by Jason/FWB-thanks!)
Weight with Veloflex Carbons: 5.24Kg (11.55lbs)
Here's the build list, with weight (gms)
Frame: Neo Exile Ultimate (975)
Fork: Edge tapered 1.5” (340)
Headset FSA Orbit tapered (80)
Topcap/Expander Soul-Kozak/Extralight (12)
Bar/Stem: FSA Plasma Compact-sanded (397)
Crank Arms: THM Clavicula (420)
Chain Rings FibreLyte CF 41/51 (76)
Pedals: Speedplay X1 (150)
Saddle: AX Lightness Phoenix premium (55)
Post: AX Lightness Daedalus premium (87)
Alt. Saddle: Custom CF integrated (117)
Seatpost sleeve: (20)
Seat Post Clamp: New Ultimate (8)
Brake Levers: SRAM Red - sanded + BTP hoods (290)
Brakes: EE + Swisstop pads (190)
Shift/Brake Cables: Nokon (90)
Rear Derailleur: SRAM Red (150)
Chain: DuraAce 7900 (230)
Front Derailleur: DuraAce 7900 (66)
Front Wheel: M5, Sapim, Edge 25 (330)
Rear Wheel: Extralite, Sapim, Edge 25 (450)
Alt. Front: Tune Mig45, Sapim, AX Lightness SRT42 (390)
Alt. Rear: Extralite SX, Sapim, AX Lightness SRT42 (495)
Cassette: KCNC Alloy 11-23 (110)
Alt. cassette: Recon 11-23 (88)
Skewers: Tune AC14 (33)
Tires: Veloflex Carbon (580)
Alt. tires: Veloflex Extreme (450)
Rim glue (20)
Handlebar Tape: Forte CF vinyl (40)
Bottle Cage: Emporelli carbon (15)
Total (measured): 5240(5280)g 11.6lbs
Initial ride report (60mi): I hate to gush, but this is an *amazing* bike! I can't think of a better descriptor than taut. Stiff, but with all the "dampening" character of CF. The 1.5" headset and Edge fork make for a solid, tight front end. The rear is very stiff also--making for crisp shift and solid braking. The whole bike is direct, connected--no shimmy, flex, wobble, nothing.
Subsequent ride report: I rode it for the second time (only) at the Tour de Tucson (108mi) and it really is a fantastic bike. I have had many bikes, but the last bike I had was a Giant TCR from 2002 (one of the first frames in the US), and so my comparison group consists of older frames made from steel, titanium and old CF (including a Specialized Epic!)
So, the Neo is a state-of-the-art design and correspondingly rigid, solid, light, vibrant, tight. I'd say it's almost a perfect bike for riding--it's everything without being any one thing exclusively. The Edge fork is fantastic--just there and solid as a rock. The frame has the CF "deadening" feel, but not dead at all. It damps road vibrations, but a little "buzz" is still felt on rough roads. The BB is stiff, and the rear end is tight. No flex, but I'm not a jammer. It climbs wonderfully, and a did a few climbs out of the saddle--perfect. I also did a short steep sitting bottom gear climb--it tracked very well.
The build quality is very high. I showed it to Jason (Madcow) from FairWheel and he admired it, recognizing that it was certainly of the latest design and build quality.
The matte finish is certainly the bomb--there were a couple of matte bikes at the ride (among the 6000 bikes there!!) and it stood out with the ultra-stealth look.
The seat and post are just for the photo--I have my own integrated seat/post that I will be using (125g), but to your question--yes, I did the Alien in red myself to add a little red highlight theme to my bike when I used this combo. I won't be running so much red on this build, but there's enough on the FSA Plasma bars to need a little on the frame. The headset is a shaved FSA Orbit (1.5" of course) and I added the red ring just for bling.
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Tinea Pedis wrote:..
What are you waiting on to finish the build?
Time I have everything I need, including the Parlee CF front derailleur clamp (!), and will hopefully make some progress this evening. I hoping for a shakedown ride on Saturday if possible, as I am heading over to the Tour de Tucson next weekend and it would be great to have the new bike there.
that's always the annoying part of a bike build. i am definitely a hatchet man, no problem with screwing everything together - but i do hate thoe blo*dy details such as shortening cables etc.gandini wrote:The big deal is the shifter/brakes, of course--all that BS cabling, etc.
where'd'you get the frame from and how much did it cost? is it in the same price range as the exile frame?
getDaddy yo yo wrote:where'd'you the frame from and how much did it cost? is it in the same price range as the exile frame?
E-mail patrick from Neo-cyces on email@example.com. He is awesome guy, and he will respond you very fast.
by the way nice bike
Patrick is taking orders for a December production run (the frame is made by Carbotec in Shenzhen) Contact him as per the poster above--he's a great guy to work with. I suggest patience, but that's true for every situation, not just ordering a frame from overseas.
btw, the 1/5" headset is amazingly smooth and solid--perhaps its the larger diameter of the lower bearing, plus the shear size of the headtube and fork crown--can't wait to feel it out riding.
I just realized that back in Dec 2002, when I bought my Giant TCR frame it cost me $1400 with fork. I ended up putting a Easton fork on it ($500). So the Neo+Edge fork actually cost me less, and much less when inflation over that time is considered. Cool...
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