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LedZeppelin007
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by LedZeppelin007

So, I have taken off the tape and trued the wheel twice, measuring the tension to make sure everything lined up with the Enve guidelines (120kg NDS, whatever keeps it true and dished on the drive side). The front 3.4 remains true with an Enve tire, but goes out with a 32c Conti GP5k S TR. Anyone else experience this with Enve?

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LedZeppelin007 wrote:So, I have taken off the tape and trued the wheel twice, measuring the tension to make sure everything lined up with the Enve guidelines (120kg NDS, whatever keeps it true and dished on the drive side). The front 3.4 remains true with an Enve tire, but goes out with a 32c Conti GP5k S TR. Anyone else experience this with Enve?
Typo, right. If not that tension and method is reversed.
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LedZeppelin007
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by LedZeppelin007

the disc side is 125isg kgf and the DS is 95ish kgf. Just as Enve prescribes for the front wheel.

The wheel is true in the stand to less than 1mm.

Enve seem to think that the Conti tire is out of spec tight. It isn't: just like most contis it's a little difficult to mount but not terribly so

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by wheelbuilder

Oh it's a front wheel? My mistake. You are correct.
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damond
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by damond

Is anyone running 30mm Conti GP5000s TR on the 4.5 and can tell the actual tire width?

I am afraid those will be a bit big since my 28’s are actually 31mm measured..


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damond wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:57 pm
Is anyone running 30mm Conti GP5000s TR on the 4.5 and can tell the actual tire width?

I am afraid those will be a bit big since my 28’s are actually 31mm measured..


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I'm not running them but i saw a video where they measured pogacar's wheel, which was using that combo, and they measured 33mm.

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LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:59 pm
So, I have taken off the tape and trued the wheel twice, measuring the tension to make sure everything lined up with the Enve guidelines (120kg NDS, whatever keeps it true and dished on the drive side). The front 3.4 remains true with an Enve tire, but goes out with a 32c Conti GP5k S TR. Anyone else experience this with Enve?
I had that happen on a 2.3 front running a 32 GP 5000 S TR, swapped tires and the issue was resolved. Then the rear wheel kept having spoke tension issues and so I sold them off. New ENVE stuff seems to be hit or miss but that will likely be my last set after having a several over the years.

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by robertoguinn

damond wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:57 pm
Is anyone running 30mm Conti GP5000s TR on the 4.5 and can tell the actual tire width?

I am afraid those will be a bit big since my 28’s are actually 31mm measured..


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Actual width with 30mm GP5K STR on Enve 4.5 wheels is 32mm
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by Sparrie

So I'm on the verge of making a decision on the enve 4.5 or 6.7. I ride mostly flat in NL and will fit these wheels in an Ostro Vam TDF size 58.

Would like to ride 28 wide but just can't decide on de 4.5 or 6.7. Any thoughts?

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by Sparrie

And why? Will the looks be better? The gain in Aero? The 6.7 are less wide, will a 28 tire still be ok?

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23ID better suited for as 28mm tyre. 30OD also makes for a seamless transition.
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by Sparrie

ryanw wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:46 pm
23ID better suited for as 28mm tyre. 30OD also makes for a seamless transition.
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by LedZeppelin007

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Any thoughts?
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