Light Bicycle wheel rims?

[jlok]

They aren't making these hubs, they're from Nonplus

If youre talking about the IG post, then you're right.

But I am referring to this "The rim profile and LB's carbon spokes are the only questionmark for me".

The current LB carbon spoked wheels are relying on some unknown ODM hubs, which I am talking about. The quality is questionable.

Again, I wish LB can evolve into a true wheel mfg who also produce hubs, so that the wheel can be designed as a whole. Everything is optimized.

[toxin]

Those are off the shelf Chosen hubs

I took another look and their spokes are 4.5/1.2 mm ellipses, so not the best but ok

[OtterSpace]

Interesting idea, but I, for instance, would always prioritize grip (and wet grip! where Contis never really shine) over aero or even RR in the mountains.

The reason I recommended trying Aero 111 is for the crosswind handling which is more linear and predictable at gusts of > +/- 10 degree yaw which isnt what they are primarily marketing towards but likely is the biggest advantage of the tire.

[alanyu]

Interesting idea, but I, for instance, would always prioritize grip (and wet grip! where Contis never really shine) over aero or even RR in the mountains.

The reason I recommended trying Aero 111 is for the crosswind handling which is more linear and predictable at gusts of > +/- 10 degree yaw which isnt what they are primarily marketing towards but likely is the biggest advantage of the tire.

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Exaxtly this. I posted the same opinion in the 111 thread in watt weenies forum.

[jlok]

Those are off the shelf Chosen hubs

I took another look and their spokes are 4.5/1.2 mm ellipses, so not the best but ok

The spokes themselves are fine so far, but the necessary hubs are not. I'd like to see DT / Shimano / Campy / WhiteInd / i9 all / some of these players to support the latest carbon spokes.

[Jasonlelam]

They aren't making these hubs, they're from Nonplus

If youre talking about the IG post, then you're right.

But I am referring to this "The rim profile and LB's carbon spokes are the only questionmark for me".

The current LB carbon spoked wheels are relying on some unknown ODM hubs, which I am talking about. The quality is questionable.

Again, I wish LB can evolve into a true wheel mfg who also produce hubs, so that the wheel can be designed as a whole. Everything is optimized.

What strongly differentiate LB from other players IMO is their damn plenty of custom options. For carbon-spoke hubs, I think they are constantly seeking more reliable/decent partners (DT, I9 or NonPlus etc) to practically match the system optimization/custom demand.

[jlok]

They aren't making these hubs, they're from Nonplus

If youre talking about the IG post, then you're right.

But I am referring to this "The rim profile and LB's carbon spokes are the only questionmark for me".

The current LB carbon spoked wheels are relying on some unknown ODM hubs, which I am talking about. The quality is questionable.

Again, I wish LB can evolve into a true wheel mfg who also produce hubs, so that the wheel can be designed as a whole. Everything is optimized.

What strongly differentiate LB from other players IMO is their damn plenty of custom options. For carbon-spoke hubs, I think they are constantly seeking more reliable/decent partners (DT, I9 or NonPlus etc) to practically match the system optimization/custom demand.

Yes, no doubt about the customization. And yes, they are constantly seeking more reliable partners, but the fact is that the carbon spokes dictate what hubs are usable today. For the more reliable carbon spokes, only the dedicated slot-in style hubs are usable today. That's all stem back to my first comment of "not recommend carbon spokes today" due to the dedicated hubs quality are not quite there yet.

Again, I am not saying LB is bad and not to buy. I am waiting for LB to go further. I own AR45, WR50, AR565. Don't shoot

[MichaelK]

I wouldn't recommend carbon spokes on slot-in hub based purely on the chances of catastrophic failure. I've seen some terrible accidents from one spoke snapping, causing all the rest to lose tension and simply fall out of the slots. Not the best design choice at all.

[wheelbuilder]

I wouldn't recommend carbon spokes on slot-in hub based purely on the chances of catastrophic failure. I've seen some terrible accidents from one spoke snapping, causing all the rest to lose tension and simply fall out of the slots. Not the best design choice at all.

Just watched a Peak Torque video?

[RDY]

NonPlus do a dedicated hub for composite spokes - interesting take on high flange. One-K are using it, optimized for their spokes.

From what I've heard, you can buy the design suitable for use with the latest Stren or similar bladed carbon spokes. Just nobody has yet bitten (to my knowledge), presumably due to high cost.

[MichaelK]

I wouldn't recommend carbon spokes on slot-in hub based purely on the chances of catastrophic failure. I've seen some terrible accidents from one spoke snapping, causing all the rest to lose tension and simply fall out of the slots. Not the best design choice at all.

Just watched a Peak Torque video?

Nope, don't watch his videos (I pretty much only watch LR and Norcal on Youtube).

[Gutonobre]

Good morning, folks. I'm 1.89m and I'm 90 kilos. I have a 2015 Cervelo R5 with Enve 3.4 Gen1 wheels (DT Swiss 240S hubs). I'm thinking of upgrading to the Lightbycicle Falcon Pro AR465. My doubt is:

Is it better to reuse 240S hubs and buy only AR465 rims? If so, what is the ideal length of the spokes I will have to buy (I am thinking of the CX-Ray Sapim).

Or would I better buy an AR465 wheelset with CarbonTI hubs and leave the Enves as a reserve wheelset?

I intend to stay on the 25mm tyre (currently GP5000 brown)

[Mr.Gib]

Love my Carbon Ti hubs BUT at 90kg my advice is to avoid them. The alloy axles are soft and the inner bearing races, particularely the inboard bearing of the freehub, will cut into them. You will end up with noise that can only be solved with a new axle. I have had the problem at 75kg. The problem used to be worse when the axles were slightly undersized. Lately the axles are a snug fit so things are better but... DT Swiss for you IMO.

[Hexsense]

Feel itchy to try the new Turbo profile.
https://www.lightbicycle.com/newsletter ... heels.html

Debating between just getting two Turbo 50mm rims to replace rims on my WR50 wheelset. Or to get the two Turbo 65mm complete wheelset and sell WR50 as complete wheelset.

How much drag saving were there between 50mm vs 65mm deep wheels normally?

[208]

Good that they're stepped into 2024 with the width, but damn that's an ugly rim.