Yet another narrow bar: Worx Narrow and Super Narrow Bars

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e4rthm0ver
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by e4rthm0ver

After few days of thinking about it I also ordered this 340mm bikedoc bar. Stay tuned for dumbest Aethos build you will ever see

AliExpress says that estimated delivery is 27th July but i hope it won’t take that long.

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OtterSpace
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by OtterSpace

BikeTyson wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 1:06 pm
Anybody have experience with the Lamda bar?

I'm on the narrow bar journey but can't go super narrow like some listed. I'm 190cm with broad shoulders, and my bikes always came with 44s, which then went to 42s, then 40s, now 36s. Each step took a little to get used to but usually felt great after a bit.
I have them on my SL6 Tarmac which I only ride occasionally. I only have two rides in on them so far so I dont want to say much yet. I ride 48-49cm frames and over the last decade walked my way down from 42cm to 38, 36, and now the narrowest size Lamda.

Since taking the photos in that thread I've tilted the bars up and hoods shifted down for a flatter transition from hood to handlebar for a smoother hand rest.

So far they feel fine after adding more stem length, as expected, but there is a lot more micro tuning of stack, cockpit angles, seat position etc than I usually run through then swapping bars. Basically the main fit is good but needs a lot more micro tuning to be really set.

I'm glad they are 2 part for now as they are far less set and forget as other setups. As this market matures a bit I can see a desire for 1 part becoming larger for people second narrow bar setups.

Quality is better than average but not amazin. They have tons of branding and the clamp area grip is a bit uncentered on my handlebar which isnt a big deal.

They are fairly stiff compared to a one part barstem. Given the narrow width I think stiffer is better vs my climbing bars (36cm Darimo round) and general use (36cm EXS Aerover barstem) where I'm fine with them being a bit more noodly

shimmeD
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by shimmeD

Anyone tried this? https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005006019 ... 4itemAdapt
Weighty, but shouldn't matter for the track.
Less is more.

steve028
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by steve028

e4rthm0ver wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:00 pm
Looks really interesting. Also 205g for super narrow
Damn thats light...and narrow. Maybe a little too narrow though

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by steve028

apr46 wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:59 pm
Video here, claming some eyepopping aero savings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLEm2KziCVc

Seems like the arms race is on with the Aerocoach Ornix, Toot Ashaa RR and now these bars. The future is apparently here. And narrow.

Links:
Worx Narrow Bar: https://worxbikes.com/product/wx-r-carb ... c1-0-35cm/
Drops ~35cm C-C, tops ~30cm C-C

Worx Super Narrow Bar: https://worxbikes.com/product/wx-r-carb ... 1-33-copy/
Drops ~33cm C-C, tops ~24cm C-C

Aerocoach Ornix: https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/store/Aero ... p509540543
Drops 37.5cm C-C, tops 32.5cm C-C

Toot Ashaa RR Carbon: https://performance.tootengineering.com ... rr-carbon/
Drops ~35cm C-C, tops ~26 cm C-C
ANyone got any idea what stem would go best with the aerocoach, its really hard to actually find any images of them set up on a bike which seems strange

steve028
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by steve028

maxim809 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:18 am
What are peep's takes on their claim that there will be more riders on bars like these in the next 12 months.
There will definitely be more but I really cant see it being widely adopted, no chance

steve028
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by steve028

apr46 wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:59 pm
Video here, claming some eyepopping aero savings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLEm2KziCVc

Seems like the arms race is on with the Aerocoach Ornix, Toot Ashaa RR and now these bars. The future is apparently here. And narrow.

Links:
Worx Narrow Bar: https://worxbikes.com/product/wx-r-carb ... c1-0-35cm/
Drops ~35cm C-C, tops ~30cm C-C

Worx Super Narrow Bar: https://worxbikes.com/product/wx-r-carb ... 1-33-copy/
Drops ~33cm C-C, tops ~24cm C-C

Aerocoach Ornix: https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/store/Aero ... p509540543
Drops 37.5cm C-C, tops 32.5cm C-C

Toot Ashaa RR Carbon: https://performance.tootengineering.com ... rr-carbon/
Drops ~35cm C-C, tops ~26 cm C-C
Anyone have any experience comparing the above options to something like the Enve SES aero, its not quite so narrow but certainly looks a lot cleaner when paired with their stem and looks like cables can be tidied away too. Plus doesnt look quite so obvious that they are narrow/flared

apr46
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by apr46

My "bikedoc" bars came in and they seem great. Though, I should be clear that I didnt order from Aliexpress as I mentioned earlier I had some influence on these.

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Weigh 229g on my scale. Weight 228g on theirs. My scale is kinda crappy and its close enough anyway.

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Full album is https://imgur.com/a/carbon-bars-340mm-APaBB5z. I will create a separate thread for these bars once i get them installed as I think they deserve them. I am currently running the Enve Ses Aero 40cm bars so can offer some thoughts on those vs. these as well. One thing to note, where i will actually be mounting the hoods they are closer to 290mm C-C not 280mm.
Last edited by apr46 on Fri May 24, 2024 5:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.

danridesbikes
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by danridesbikes

they look great,

do they have a cable exit hole on the stem clamp area?

EDIT: nevermind, i can see it on your final pic in the profile of the carbon

e4rthm0ver
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by e4rthm0ver

Looks pretty well made. Can’t wait for mine to arrive

jo.k
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by jo.k

These looks amazing, going to order them as well, just not quite sure which width. Will be replacing the Enve SES clone by Speeder which I am really pleased with, just don't need the flare so the Speeder bars will be going on the gravel bike.

Would be curious to see a side view of the bars as well.

charirider
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by charirider

Are these meant for children?
Tried 38cm bars (top-top). Couldn't corner on descents with confidence at all, get back to 410 (top-top, 420 c-c) Metron 5D and it feels so much better.
And I by no mean have wide shoulders, below avarage I guess.
On the other hand, 440mm c-c was too much.
I would suggest 400mm c-c to majority of riders. Narrower will compromise handling and aero advantage is minimal.
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e4rthm0ver
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by e4rthm0ver

For last two years I have been running 36cm bars with hoods angled inwards a bit (with distance between tips of the hoods measuring 28cm) and I have absolutely no issue with descending and controlling the bike overall.
Over last few years I went 42-40-38-36 and see absolutely no downside so I’ll be trying even narrower

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by Hexsense

charirider wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 9:05 am
Are these meant for children?
Tried 38cm bars (top-top). Couldn't corner on descents with confidence at all
Are you so old and rigid that you can't adapt to new things at all?

Speaking of handling.
Anything above 32cm is still plenty wide that average rider wouldn't have issue with torque required to handle the bike.
Like, 30cm vs 40cm bar require 33% more torque to turn. We were nowhere close to being 33% away from not having enough torque to turn the bar with 40cm.
But even if you don't, two weeks of gym work can increase arm muscle strength up to 2x for those that never hit the gym.
So the only big thing that need to adjust is the geometry and hand angle etc. That require some learning and practice, indeed.

But people that still can learn a new thing should be able to adapt and adjust within a reasonable time.

Personally, 38cm is my safe zone. A width that if I don't care about aero at all I'll use. It is the most comfortable and natural width for me.
I currently use 36cm on gravel bike, as I want a bit more aero but still want some confidence from such wide bar for loose gravel descend. So, one step down from my safe zone.

On road bike, I use narrower than 36cm, of course, because it's the best bang for the buck aero upgrade.

charirider
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by charirider

38cm is not extreme, but 36 and moreover 32cm is narrow. Just my 2 cents: wide bars didn't get in the way how Pantani climbed)
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