That SRAM chain is way slower than a Shimano chain...they have to lube it mid race for him to have a chance to win.
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It used to be seen a lot, back in the day. But, with the advances that have been made in the last 30 years, it is unnecessary. I wouldn't be surprised if the rule change was made to remove excessive cars next to riders. E3 wasn't run off in bad weather, so if his bike's chain needed relubing after only 220km of riding it suggests the mechanics have not done their job properly.jcrr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:18 amThat has been seen many times on stages of big tours. Far from an expert, but that was so oh-so-next-level-pro, given how late in the race it came (ie., getting the bike as close to 100% ready for a sprint). The follow-up question may be 'how late in a race should that be allowed?'
I dunno, the immutable laws of chase group psychology say it's better to be one leader than two chasers because there's no one to sit up and look at. How heavy were the riders that 50kg Pidcock held off at Strade?TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:47 am
Actually lol at the idea of a 65kg Pogacar getting the jump on, then staying away from these particular two ~75kg riders working in tandem…in a flat finish.
But the point about the parcours is dead on. That the attacks didn't work doesn't mean they were mistimed, the opposition was too strong and the course suited them better. If Maq's advice could make Pog unbeatable on a day like that then teams should be beating his door down to hire as a DS.
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Anyhow, to the powers that be at the UCI, enforce whatever the rules are. If the rules are stupid, change them. if the wording of the rule is screwed up, fix it.
I don't know whether there is a translation issue, or which language prevails for UCI rules interpretation. Nevertheless, based on this language, presumably WVA's re-lubing was o.k. provided the chain was lubed with something other than grease. So pretty much any chain lube should be o.k.The UCI regulations state that "the greasing of chains from a moving vehicle shall be forbidden" with the punishment for the rider being a fine and "elimination or disqualification".
Anyhow, to the powers that be at the UCI, enforce whatever the rules are. If the rules are stupid, change them. if the wording of the rule is screwed up, fix it.
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Lubrication oil translated into French is huile de graissage and graissage means lubrication using grease or oil. Pretty sure it means any lubrication. Strictly speaking, WVA should have been DQ'd.HammerTime2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:59 pmhttps://www.cyclingnews.com/news/dont-k ... e3-finale/I don't know whether there is a translation issue, or which language prevails for UCI rules interpretation. Nevertheless, based on this language, presumably WVA's re-lubing was o.k. provided the chain was lubed with something other than grease. So pretty much any chain lube should be o.k.The UCI regulations state that "the greasing of chains from a moving vehicle shall be forbidden" with the punishment for the rider being a fine and "elimination or disqualification".
AgreedAnyhow, to the powers that be at the UCI, enforce whatever the rules are. If the rules are stupid, change them. if the wording of the rule is screwed up, fix it.
It rained during the start and like 30 minutes into the race there was a huge downpour as well.ultimobici wrote:It used to be seen a lot, back in the day. But, with the advances that have been made in the last 30 years, it is unnecessary. I wouldn't be surprised if the rule change was made to remove excessive cars next to riders. E3 wasn't run off in bad weather, so if his bike's chain needed relubing after only 220km of riding it suggests the mechanics have not done their job properly.jcrr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:18 amThat has been seen many times on stages of big tours. Far from an expert, but that was so oh-so-next-level-pro, given how late in the race it came (ie., getting the bike as close to 100% ready for a sprint). The follow-up question may be 'how late in a race should that be allowed?'
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Could be wrong but do I recall the UCI making some noises about it being dangerous for mechanics to be hanging way out of cars for on-the-move maintenance?
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Right? I was imagining Josh from Silca seeing this and berating their lack of a chain spa.ultimobici wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 12:51 pm...with the advances that have been made in the last 30 years, it is unnecessary. ...if his bike's chain needed relubing after only 220km of riding it suggests the mechanics have not done their job properly.jcrr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:18 amThat has been seen many times on stages of big tours. Far from an expert, but that was so oh-so-next-level-pro, given how late in the race it came (ie., getting the bike as close to 100% ready for a sprint). The follow-up question may be 'how late in a race should that be allowed?'
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Especially in light of the recent issues with motos in the peloton. Race traffic has gone up exponetially since the 80s & 90s.
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Actually, I remember workingon a Team Radioshack bike direct from the team in 2011. It wasn't that well maintained.
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Personally, I don't think the UCI should respond to infractions posted on social media after the race. Kristin Faulkner shouldn't have been DQ'd after the fact for wearing a plastic disc that wasn't displaying data or helping her win the race and WVA shouldn't be DQ'd because of some post on social media.