Rumors Next Generation Campagnolo Road?

[RDY]

To simplify. if that’s the case this will be the first major release to the public not tested in the pro peloton first.

I’m just speculating, if you’re right that’s great we get it earlier. But based on past events and what the person that works for Campagnolo said to my actual face, it will be late 2023.

I've no idea about the schedule. Just saying 'interference' / reliability of wireless is not a real thing.

If it's ready to go into production in Spring then I doubt they wait until the end of the year ... but who knows.

[spartan]

so campy is acknowleding going to 13 speed is of no value to the consumer for road gearing. mmm don't get it. every major release they have done is to add a extra cog to differentiate campy vs sram/shimano. the dream of running a 1x14 speed groupset will not happend.

[rudye9mr]

Battery tech has evolved somewhat from last EPS release so perhaps something lighter by way of a lighter LiON batt...that alone would be a win for current EPS users.

[MrCurrieinahurry]

Battery will prob be £500 and unavailable anywhere

Basso Diamante eps 12

[GaBa]

I also agree, end of the year seems more realistic. Especially if they’re testing a wireless system, they would need as much pro testing in racing as possible to properly iron out signal interference. I remember shimano saying that was a big challenge for them with their new 12s.

(Forgot to add) The rep confirmed they will still support rim and v4 mechs and shifters will not be compatible with v5.

I forgot to ask about a power meter 🫣

Oh wow, that sure is great to hear, if only it materialises. My LBS told me disc only and release in the beginning of 2023 (not sure anymore when, but I recall it was earlier than later in the year since I will be on the market for new groupset around new year).

[jlok]

Battery will prob be £500 and unavailable anywhere

Basso Diamante eps 12

Don't worry. There will be an accompanied B0ra 5W0 wheelset to generate... 5W 0utput to power the system when set up in wired mode

[morrisond]

so campy is acknowleding going to 13 speed is of no value to the consumer for road gearing. mmm don't get it. every major release they have done is to add a extra cog to differentiate campy vs sram/shimano. the dream of running a 1x14 speed groupset will not happend.

There is not enough space in a rear hub to put 13 speeds in with road gearing, the spacing would have to be tighter than EKAR. The only way they can do it with EKAR is because the biggest sprocket is 36 and it hangs over the hubshell.

Sure they could build a road group with 36 teeth as the smallest big sprocket, and starting with a 12 or 13, but then what would the weight be?

2x12 Wireless, 10T starting gear, 10-25,10-27, 10-29 Cassettes, 45/29, 48/32 and 50/34 cranks with a focus on light weight, and one other surprise.

[usr]

Sure they could build a road group with 36 teeth as the smallest big sprocket, and starting with a 12 or 13, but then what would the weight be?

12-36 with a 54-40 front would certainly give smooth front shifts, and enough overlap to get through most of the day without needing one.

But then there are also those Classified cooperation rumors, and Campagnolo is enough of a wheelmaker these days that a group set without many third party wheel options would not be much of a problem. And if they tweaked the rear brake caliper a little to double as a gearing torque pickup connector, they wouldn't even need special frames. (but that approach would not be rim compatible anymore, I don't really expect it)

[morrisond]

Sure they could build a road group with 36 teeth as the smallest big sprocket, and starting with a 12 or 13, but then what would the weight be?

12-36 with a 54-40 front would certainly give smooth front shifts, and enough overlap to get through most of the day without needing one.

But then there are also those Classified cooperation rumors, and Campagnolo is enough of a wheelmaker these days that a group set without many third party wheel options would not be much of a problem. And if they tweaked the rear brake caliper a little to double as a gearing torque pickup connector, they wouldn't even need special frames. (but that approach would not be rim compatible anymore, I don't really expect it)

Yes - but that cassette and chainring combo would be very heavy.

[morrisond]

Wow - its been almost a day and nobody has commented on the numbers I included up thread.

[GaBa]

They were already mentioned in this topic although from some instagram post. To my knowledge 10t sprockets suck friction wise so that is downside. Upside is the system as a whole will be lighter and if I understand you correctly this is (one of) their aim? I like it, I still look at what the bike weighs

[GaBa]

But you definitely made my day with info about having rim option. Was already looking at Ultegra Di2 but will postpone purchasing new group to wait and see what Campa will offer (and to save some money ).

Seems like my LBS does not have very exact info so my bad for saying group will be disc only and available in the beginning of 2023.

[satanas]

Assuming the current 11-29 cassette will still work, the new chainrings could give some useful options. 10-25 plus 11-29 should cover just about everything...

[RDY]

Whatever they do with chainrings / chainsets, I bet they come out with yet another BCD ...

[ultimobici]

Assuming the current 11-29 cassette will still work, the new chainrings could give some useful options. 10-25 plus 11-29 should cover just about everything...

How do you plan getting the 25 to work? Spokes & mech will be far too close.


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