Gravel tire rolling resistance tested

[Nohands83]

It’s winter tyres time in the UK, considering trying out Tufo Swampero, Pirelli S or Hutchinson Tundra this year - any user experience with these?

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Data point:
Panaracer gravelking semislick plus 43 has exactly the same b2b size as Maxxis Rambler 40

[DouglasDDX]

It’s winter tyres time in the UK, considering trying out Tufo Swampero, Pirelli S or Hutchinson Tundra this year - any user experience with these?

Unfortunately no experience with any of these, I really wish the Swampero existed in a bigger version than 40mm.. My Tufo thunderos 44 has been great, even in a really wet and muddy 160km ride this weekend, they did fine.

I want a bigger tire, especially for the winter so went with Pirelli M in 45mm for this year, going to mount them next week.
Pirelli S I havn't found in stock anywhere yet.. So for me it was Pirelli M vs Teravail Rutland.
Hutchinson Tundra also looks interesting, havn't seen that one before.

[Nohands83]

Thanks for your reply, I rode Pirelli M a lot last year and they're a great all-rounder in actual mud they're not great - probably due to the almost solid centre tread.
I borrowed a set of Terreno wets off a mate at the weekend and rode those on a particularly muddy ride and WOW different ball game, you can actually ride through the mud.
Thought they would be draggy on the road, whilst they don't feel fast you can still zip along at 19mph on the tarmac.

[DouglasDDX]

Hmm okay, but on fast terrain the M's feels faster than the terreno wets or similar?
I like a fast rolling tyre but at the same time here in south sweden during winter, its wet and muddy most of the time.

Vittoria Mezcal now in 44mm also looks interesting even though it supposed to be a "dry" tire

[Nohands83]

Yeah they don't feel quite as fast the Pirelli, but I felt significantly more confident riding them in proper mud so I guess it depends how much mud you regularly ride in - there's not much gravel round here!
I thought the Mezcal looked interesting as well, similar to the new Pirelli RC - look forward to the BBR results of those.

[spartacus]

https://www.lordgun.com/pirelli-cintura ... tlr-tyre-1

[bobrayner]

I switched to the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel M TLR for winter, and I really like it, with two caveats:
1. It's definitely biased towards grip, not low rolling-resistance. That's fine, my winter rides are mud and chaos and fun, not sleek racing events.
2. Seems a little bit leaky compared to other tubeless tyres I've used. Not too bad, I've never experienced the weeping sealant problems that some unlucky folk have on other tubeless setups, but my Pirellis have definitely needed a little extra inflation before a weekend ride.

[Woland]

It’s winter tyres time in the UK, considering trying out Tufo Swampero, Pirelli S or Hutchinson Tundra this year - any user experience with these?

+500km on Swampero 700x40, previously on Terra Speed 700x40. The Swampero is more grippy and supple that the Terrra Speed, but does feel a little slower on asphalt and hardpack gravel. I switched mainly for more cornering grip = fun and the Swampero has delivered.

I've heard that the Tufo's (Speedero/Thundero/Swampero) are more prone to punctures than the Contis, but that hasn't been my experience so far.

[scoobydrew]

Are the Gravelking slicks still the best value in terms of rolling resistance, weight, and ride quality? I'm looking for a wide road oriented tire in the 700x35mm space specifically with tan walls and have been considering the GK slicks, Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass, Challenge Strada Bianca Pro HLTR (36mm), Schwalbe Pro One (34mm).

[emotive]

Are the Gravelking slicks still the best value in terms of rolling resistance, weight, and ride quality? I'm looking for a wide road oriented tire in the 700x35mm space specifically with tan walls and have been considering the GK slicks, Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass, Challenge Strada Bianca Pro HLTR (36mm), Schwalbe Pro One (34mm).

I would say so. The price is cheaper than most, but they also have less tread thickness, so the total miles per tire is not as good. In the long run they're not much different from RH in cost per ride, so I switched back to the RH Bon Jon Pass EL on the front and Barlow Pass EL on the rear.

[mathias720]

Are the Gravelking slicks still the best value in terms of rolling resistance, weight, and ride quality? I'm looking for a wide road oriented tire in the 700x35mm space specifically with tan walls and have been considering the GK slicks, Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass, Challenge Strada Bianca Pro HLTR (36mm), Schwalbe Pro One (34mm).

I would say so. The price is cheaper than most, but they also have less tread thickness, so the total miles per tire is not as good. In the long run they're not much different from RH in cost per ride, so I switched back to the RH Bon Jon Pass EL on the front and Barlow Pass EL on the rear.

how do the EL versions of those comepare to the panaracer puncture wise? and ride quality

[stalkersk]

Rene Herse EL ride quality is on another league, had Gravelking SS and you could feel how sluggish they were freewheeling downhill. Sidewall is thin, so you need to be careful on sharp rocks and adjust pressure to the terrain.

[QUATITE]

I am on my first 650B x 48 Switchback Hill TC Tire, extralight. They are by far the most comfortable tire I've ever run, but they seem so delicate I am sure I will shred them before long.

What is the most supple/light tire that is also durable? Does anybody have any experience with the "endurance" versions of the rene herse tires?

[CustomMetal]

I am on my first 650B x 48 Switchback Hill TC Tire, extralight. They are by far the most comfortable tire I've ever run, but they seem so delicate I am sure I will shred them before long.

What is the most supple/light tire that is also durable? Does anybody have any experience with the "endurance" versions of the rene herse tires?

I'm running the switchbacks in endurance casing. I love them! Would never get the extra light, too delicate but these seem the perfect balance