2021 PRO equipment thread
Moderators: robbosmans, Moderator Team
-
- Posts: 732
- Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:41 pm
That shouldering kink, besides being ugly, is located where nobody places their shoulder. Well done Pinarello.
Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓ Broad Selection ✓ Worldwide Delivery ✓
www.starbike.com
- robbosmans
- Moderator
- Posts: 2780
- Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:40 pm
- Location: Central Belgium
- Contact:
Lol its in the perfect spot
Arnould (world champion in the 90s) did create a bike (mid 2000s?) with such a feature (using a TT seat tube with the cut for the wheel, as a top tube). It never really took off as concept but I can’t imagine this being a bad idea.Dan Gerous wrote:It's laughably Pinarelloesque, they just can't get enough gimmicks!
-
- Posts: 12460
- Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:02 pm
C36 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:50 pmArnould (world champion in the 90s) did create a bike (mid 2000s?) with such a feature (using a TT seat tube with the cut for the wheel, as a top tube). It never really took off as concept but I can’t imagine this being a bad idea.Dan Gerous wrote:It's laughably Pinarelloesque, they just can't get enough gimmicks!
Shouldering features are common... from the older Prestige to the Inflite. Even my Rock Lobster has an ovalized section of TT for shouldering. The Prestige did it elegantly while the Inflite and Crossista maybe not so much.
While indeed elegant on the Prestige it is too far back for most riders. The Pinarello feature is very local and it would be interesting to see if it works for a wide span of riders and slight change in bike position on the shoulder.
-
- Posts: 732
- Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:41 pm
You post pictures that prove my statement? The Pinarello is in the center of the top tube, all those photos show the bike resting about 4/5cm behind the center of the top tube?
-
- Posts: 12460
- Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:02 pm
Without a notch for the shoulder to brace against, it's logical to assume that the bike will slide forward when carried at that angle. Where their shoulders meet the TT may not be optimal, just a consequence of not having a proper shouldering feature.OnTheRivet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:02 pm
You post pictures that prove my statement? The Pinarello is in the center of the top tube, all those photos show the bike resting about 4/5cm behind the center of the top tube?
- robbosmans
- Moderator
- Posts: 2780
- Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:40 pm
- Location: Central Belgium
- Contact:
Confirm you are wrong and move on…OnTheRivet wrote:You post pictures that prove my statement? The Pinarello is in the center of the top tube, all those photos show the bike resting about 4/5cm behind the center of the top tube?
Nimbl sponsoring Nibali in 2022.
They start to have a wide "range" of pro riders using their shoes.
They start to have a wide "range" of pro riders using their shoes.
- robbosmans
- Moderator
- Posts: 2780
- Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:40 pm
- Location: Central Belgium
- Contact:
They do look very sleek, especially now they use boa dials
-
- Posts: 12460
- Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:02 pm
robbosmans wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:35 pmThey do look very sleek, especially now they use boa dials
I really want to try a pair now that they've made enough shoes for Boa to sell to them. Looks like the shoes have a low instep and big ankle collar. Seems perfect for my foot shape.
Marketing doing its job as the shoes have been available for years from the actual italian producer with his own brand.
-
- Posts: 573
- Joined: Sun May 06, 2018 8:30 pm
and who's their manufacturer please ?
verducci ?
a few small italians brand that could be , but not sure so asking.
verducci ?
a few small italians brand that could be , but not sure so asking.
Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓ Broad Selection ✓ Worldwide Delivery ✓
www.starbike.com
They are not, at least not on the two frames you mentioned. The canyon is not made to stabilise the bike on the shoulder, it is a horizontal TT (to allow enough space to pass the shoulder) with a lowered seatpost clamp leading to this design. The “smooth” junction with the seat tube is placed way on the back to be really useful to keep the frame more stable over the shoulder.TobinHatesYou wrote:
Shouldering features are common... from the older Prestige to the Inflite. Even my Rock Lobster has an ovalized section of TT for shouldering. The Prestige did it elegantly while the Inflite and Crossista maybe not so much.
So yes it looks like if Pinarello caricatured themselves with this frame but it brings something relatively unique.