Factor Ostro
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i just realized Factor is a consumer direct brand, so wtf is it no expensive. for 5500 usd for a frameset i would go sworks tarmac.
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Any compelling reasons to avoid this bike? I'd be getting the frameset package and building it up with ultegra di2 with quarq cranks.
This bike ticks a lot of boxes - lightweight, aero, tire clearance, great cockpit integration and nice paint jobs. Pricing in Aus is at or better than competing options (e.g. addict/foil, SL7, supersix, emonda). But I am a bit nervous about buying a bike that has not really been road tested very much...
This bike ticks a lot of boxes - lightweight, aero, tire clearance, great cockpit integration and nice paint jobs. Pricing in Aus is at or better than competing options (e.g. addict/foil, SL7, supersix, emonda). But I am a bit nervous about buying a bike that has not really been road tested very much...
I wouldn't hesitate. The company is solid, the guys running are decent blokes, customers seem all very happy with their purchases, and the engineers have a good track record of bike design. And if you are in Australia, all the better. Also it won't be that long until we have some real world feedback if you are hesitant.bluebottle81 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:41 amAny compelling reasons to avoid this bike? I'd be getting the frameset package and building it up with ultegra di2 with quarq cranks.
This bike ticks a lot of boxes - lightweight, aero, tire clearance, great cockpit integration and nice paint jobs. Pricing in Aus is at or better than competing options (e.g. addict/foil, SL7, supersix, emonda). But I am a bit nervous about buying a bike that has not really been road tested very much...
wheelsONfire wrote: When we ride disc brakes the whole deal of braking is just like a leaving a fart. It happens and then it's over. Nothing planned and nothing to get nervous for.
Really? What sort of Aus prices are you talking about ? I paid about AU$6.5k for an Addict RC Di2 last year (list price at the time was around $7.3k). Isn't the bare frameset for the Ostro around US$5.5k (= AU$7.6k) ?bluebottle81 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:41 amPricing in Aus is at or better than competing options (e.g. addict/foil, SL7, supersix, emonda).
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In Aus they have a pre-order deal with frameset/bars for ~A$6k and a force axs build with power for ~A$10k. Nice thing also is they can swap out components for different sizes etc.GeoffS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:34 amReally? What sort of Aus prices are you talking about ? I paid about AU$6.5k for an Addict RC Di2 last year (list price at the time was around $7.3k). Isn't the bare frameset for the Ostro around US$5.5k (= AU$7.6k) ?bluebottle81 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:41 amPricing in Aus is at or better than competing options (e.g. addict/foil, SL7, supersix, emonda).
The base addict model isn't exactly what I'm after so I'd have to buy a few more components (integrated barstem, power crankset, cassette, wheels) which would add another ~$4,000 to the cost. And its about $800 more expensive now vs last year. All in I think the factor would be similar or a bit cheaper and end product would likely be a bit lighter and (maybe?) more aero.
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What is the Ostro comparable to in another brands portfolio? The One being even more aero and the O2 VAM being super light, is this like the Domane Koppenberg and Roubaix Team Edition?
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Well if you follow the marketing it's a 'quiver killer' ie. doitall, so halfway house between aero and lightweight, the only other bike that is following this marketing direction is the SL7.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:39 pmWhat is the Ostro comparable to in another brands portfolio? The One being even more aero and the O2 VAM being super light, is this like the Domane Koppenberg and Roubaix Team Edition?
If you can only own one bike and you like Factor, the Ostro it is. If you can own separate aero/climbing/bling bikes, than you can choose the others
I don't regret getting my early gen VAM as my light bike because of its minimal paint and standard seatpost and I prefer my Darimo cockpit over heavy integrated cockpit. If I can get an aero bike, I'll actually go for the One tbh, their recent blue paintwork looks amazing.
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I don't regret getting my early gen VAM as my light bike because of its minimal paint and standard seatpost and I prefer my Darimo cockpit over heavy integrated cockpit. If I can get an aero bike, I'll actually go for the One tbh, their recent blue paintwork looks amazing.
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Back off on the Emonda and go for Ostro?FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:39 pmWhat is the Ostro comparable to in another brands portfolio? The One being even more aero and the O2 VAM being super light, is this like the Domane Koppenberg and Roubaix Team Edition?
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
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Nah, although I really like the bare carbon paintjob. I like the more classic look of the Emonda better. Also, Factor have never been to a wind tunnel with the bike, which is kind of questionable. Probably still a very good bike.wheelsONfire wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:42 pmBack off on the Emonda and go for Ostro?FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:39 pmWhat is the Ostro comparable to in another brands portfolio? The One being even more aero and the O2 VAM being super light, is this like the Domane Koppenberg and Roubaix Team Edition?
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Most probably the reason why they've never been to a wind tunnel for frame testing it's because it's freaking useless, and with no standard protocols you can actually prove whatever you want. it's just marketing material for fools.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:44 pmNah, although I really like the bare carbon paintjob. I like the more classic look of the Emonda better. Also, Factor have never been to a wind tunnel with the bike, which is kind of questionable. Probably still a very good bike.wheelsONfire wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:42 pmBack off on the Emonda and go for Ostro?FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:39 pmWhat is the Ostro comparable to in another brands portfolio? The One being even more aero and the O2 VAM being super light, is this like the Domane Koppenberg and Roubaix Team Edition?
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Wind tunnel time seem to cost alot of money, so that's why most seem to rely on CFD only?
It would be interesting to hear an honest answer if bikes really need to be designed in a wind tunnel.
It would be interesting to hear an honest answer if bikes really need to be designed in a wind tunnel.
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
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I don't know if bikes "need to be developed" in a wind tunnel, but I also wouldn't say it's useless. My position Adaptation in the wind tunnel has been to great effect in the Real World.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7