An SL6 Supersuperlight would be sweet.stringbean wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:36 amIt exists
Lightweight road bike but more traditional design.
No paint no decals
2020 Aethos Sub UCI weight Specialized.
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Well if it's a traditional diamond frame then what would make it UCI illegal? It would need to have elevated stays or something to be an illegal design.stringbean wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:36 amIt exists
Lightweight road bike but more traditional design.
No paint no decals
A light frame in of itself isn't illegal under UCI rules, it's the weight of the whole system.
Anyone can build a bike under 6.8kg, you can do it with a steel frame if you want
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Would people really go crazy for a 5.8kg road bike? The canyon Ultimate Evo (rim brake) was actually below that, with the Disc Version just above that, and it had some minor aero features here and there. Wasn't really a big hit apparently (didn't even last a full year).
UCI illegal in terms of "Aero beyond Venge" (or rather S5, Factor One, SystemSix), would be a lot more interesting.
UCI illegal in terms of "Aero beyond Venge" (or rather S5, Factor One, SystemSix), would be a lot more interesting.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
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S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
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Cervelo PX is an attempt at Building the best and fastest bike for a 90 or 180k bike split. I have no idea how successful this was, but it certainly doesn't mean that a UCI illegal, fastest possible road bike would look anywhere similar, as demands in road racing are just very different.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Sure I guess, but if it's illegal it's not used for road racing.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:13 pmCervelo PX is an attempt at Building the best and fastest bike for a 90 or 180k bike split. I have no idea how successful this was, but it certainly doesn't mean that a UCI illegal, fastest possible road bike would look anywhere similar, as demands in road racing are just very different.
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Because every race is sanctioned by the UCI? I have not ridden in any UCI sanctioned race yet, no need to ride a UCI approved bike for me.Nooga wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:26 pmSure I guess, but if it's illegal it's not used for road racing.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:13 pmCervelo PX is an attempt at Building the best and fastest bike for a 90 or 180k bike split. I have no idea how successful this was, but it certainly doesn't mean that a UCI illegal, fastest possible road bike would look anywhere similar, as demands in road racing are just very different.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
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May i ask what lead to your decision to pick the shiv tt over the tri one?FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:37 pmBecause every race is sanctioned by the UCI? I have not ridden in any UCI sanctioned race yet, no need to ride a UCI approved bike for me.Nooga wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:26 pmSure I guess, but if it's illegal it's not used for road racing.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:13 pmCervelo PX is an attempt at Building the best and fastest bike for a 90 or 180k bike split. I have no idea how successful this was, but it certainly doesn't mean that a UCI illegal, fastest possible road bike would look anywhere similar, as demands in road racing are just very different.
Just handling/weight?
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Firstly, I am only riding TTs, not triathlon. Therefore, most oft the races are participate in are 10 to 45k in length, some very hilly, and some tight-cornered. I don't know how many watts faster the fastest Tri Bikes are than the Shiv TT, but I certainly don't need bento boxes, drinking systems or anything like that. Also, usually Tri bikes come specced with a shallower front wheel and a deeper rear wheel, while I prefer a DEEP front wheel (not really given with the Shiv either) and a Disc in the back.
Lastly, the bike is handling and comfortable like a Venge, which is amazing.
Lastly, the bike is handling and comfortable like a Venge, which is amazing.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
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Retired: 2022 Tarmac SL7 7.0kg | 2022 Crux 6.6kg | 2020 Crestone 11.7kg | 2021 Epic 10.0kg | 2022 Ripmo 14.0kg | 2015 Propel Advanced SL 7.0kg | 2018 Stigmata 6.8kg | 2018 Madone 7.1kg | 2018 Aeroad Disc 7.1kg | Switch SS 5.9kg
Retired: 2022 Tarmac SL7 7.0kg | 2022 Crux 6.6kg | 2020 Crestone 11.7kg | 2021 Epic 10.0kg | 2022 Ripmo 14.0kg | 2015 Propel Advanced SL 7.0kg | 2018 Stigmata 6.8kg | 2018 Madone 7.1kg | 2018 Aeroad Disc 7.1kg | Switch SS 5.9kg
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Wouldnt be surprised to see e-bikes looking like that in a year or 2
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That actually opens up something very interesting.iflyadesk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:49 pmYou mean something like this?
https://road.cc/content/news/163097-spe ... ion-future
As seen in the article, Specialized have a program called 'Very Special Things' that allow their designers to come up with some funky projects.
They don't seem to have released an article this year from what I can see, so maybe they took that fUCI concept and ran with it a bit more (although hopefully without a motor and windsheild)
A few links to previous projects:
https://medium.com/@iamspecialized/very ... e9396b2904
https://medium.com/@iamspecialized/very ... 7e3c20a555
https://medium.com/@iamspecialized/very ... 7f928ef8fb
https://medium.com/@iamspecialized/very ... a7dab028fb
https://medium.com/@iamspecialized/very ... 611b199ddb
And another internal project that looks good fun:
https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/designer-roll
True, but some of us do and have. I also wouldn't buy an electric bike, so maybe I'm just a Luddite.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:37 pmBecause every race is sanctioned by the UCI? I have not ridden in any UCI sanctioned race yet, no need to ride a UCI approved bike for me.Nooga wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:26 pmSure I guess, but if it's illegal it's not used for road racing.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:13 pmCervelo PX is an attempt at Building the best and fastest bike for a 90 or 180k bike split. I have no idea how successful this was, but it certainly doesn't mean that a UCI illegal, fastest possible road bike would look anywhere similar, as demands in road racing are just very different.
I heard from a little birdie that the new "UCI Illegal Specialized" will be called the "Ethos" and will be noticably below the UCI legal weight limit. It'll have minimal aero cues and be all about being below 6.8kg.
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