New Continental 5000s tires - the CLINCHER (not TL) thread

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Robius
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Neillp wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:59 am
Cream wall version out in 25mm only non TL, calimed weight 255g

https://www.continental-tires.com/bicyc ... df-edition

Not sure where you can buy them from yet though
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A tyre suppose to be black.

With the exeption of some Italian/Belgium brands. Because they do real cotton tyres for years.

Cream wall 5000's, shame on you Conti.

And guys, please don't feel offended by my comment. It is your own choice and taste for going cheap.
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Robius wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:39 pm
Neillp wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:59 am
Cream wall version out in 25mm only non TL, calimed weight 255g

https://www.continental-tires.com/bicyc ... df-edition

Not sure where you can buy them from yet though
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Neillp wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:59 am
Cream wall version out in 25mm only non TL, calimed weight 255g

https://www.continental-tires.com/bicyc ... df-edition

Not sure where you can buy them from yet though
If you would really fancy them....?

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255gr... did they glue a tan layer over a normal black one to make it that much heavier? Hopefully it's a typo. :noidea:

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Dan Gerous wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:40 pm
255gr... did they glue a tan layer over a normal black one to make it that much heavier? Hopefully it's a typo. :noidea:
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Here it says 215g. Mine will arrive this week, so I'll know more then.
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I also see tan version is 40 heavier than black version. It is not for this forum :D

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1sanglier wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:16 pm
I also see tan version is 40 heavier than black version. It is not for this forum :D
It's a typo on Continental's part, they wrote 255g instead of 225g and everyone is copy-pasting that into shop websites, media releases... but it's the exact same tire as a black GP5000 700x25 clincher, just with a different dye for the sides, which has no measurable incidence on weight... The black one is claimed 225g (all the one I measured were between 210 and 225g).

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It's not a typo, Conti gives the actual weight.

Just picked 4 random ones and put 'em on scale:
246g, 248g, 250g and 252g

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bedampft wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:21 pm
It's not a typo, Conti gives the actual weight.

Just picked 4 random ones and put 'em on scale:
246g, 248g, 250g and 252g
Tan walled ones? Continental says 225gr for the black 25mm clincher and that's actual weight from my experience, 225gr is the heaviest I ever weighed, most were under 220gr. Tan dye can't add 30gr... and if they're all 'supposed' to be around 255gr, why do they claim that for the tan but not the black? :noidea:
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Dan Gerous wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:04 pm
bedampft wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:21 pm
It's not a typo, Conti gives the actual weight.

Just picked 4 random ones and put 'em on scale:
246g, 248g, 250g and 252g
Tan walled ones? Continental says 225gr for the black 25mm clincher and that's actual weight from my experience, 225gr is the heaviest I ever weighed, most were under 220gr and beige dye can't add 30gr...
Yes, the new skinwall version. And yes it can.

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bedampft wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:06 pm
Dan Gerous wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:04 pm
bedampft wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:21 pm
It's not a typo, Conti gives the actual weight.

Just picked 4 random ones and put 'em on scale:
246g, 248g, 250g and 252g
Tan walled ones? Continental says 225gr for the black 25mm clincher and that's actual weight from my experience, 225gr is the heaviest I ever weighed, most were under 220gr and beige dye can't add 30gr...
Yes, the new skinwall version. And yes it can.
Damn! 30 grams for something cosmetic... I guess I'll stick with black then.

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Update:

I've now done around 1500 miles on 25mm 5000's (215g), fitted to Enve 3.4 rims not the AR model.

Front and rear measure 27.7mm

I'm using Tubolito S tubes 23g

I had to play around quite a bit with the pressures I'm now running around 70psi, but they are now comfy, grippy and reassuring. At higher pressure they seemed abit skittish and harsh. I have had no puncture's or pinch flats, no damage, and no shards or flints stuck in them. They still look newish, but the rear has started to square off a little. I weigh 66kg, and often could get 7000 miles out of some Gp4000 sII's with the wear markers just still visible. I'm not sure these will last as long.

The tubes I was sceptical about, but so far so good. They hold air about the same as a butyl 75g Conti race 28 light.

Gp5000 plus tubo S weighs in at 238g. Gp5000 tubeless is 295g + Valve 10g + Sealant 40g = 345g

So GP5000 Tubo S saves you 214g per pair, rolls just as fast, must climb a bit better? At my weight I can get away with 70psi, the same as tubeless, but if you are heavier you may need to go higher than you would with tubeless. No hassle setting up the tyres. No Mess and no sealant to replace. I haven't tried the patches yet, but will update when I one day get a flat.

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Dan Gerous wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:09 pm
bedampft wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:06 pm
Dan Gerous wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:04 pm
bedampft wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:21 pm
It's not a typo, Conti gives the actual weight.

Just picked 4 random ones and put 'em on scale:
246g, 248g, 250g and 252g
Tan walled ones? Continental says 225gr for the black 25mm clincher and that's actual weight from my experience, 225gr is the heaviest I ever weighed, most were under 220gr and beige dye can't add 30gr...
Yes, the new skinwall version. And yes it can.
Damn! 30 grams for something cosmetic... I guess I'll stick with black then.
Mine weighed in at 250grams, and were an absolute pig to fit, the sidewalls arn't the usual soft rubber they do feel to have some sort of fabric mix in them to get the colouration. Back to the plain black ones I go, too heavy and probably impossible to change a flat at the roadside :) :shock:

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