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Arnomatic
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Conza wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:38 am
Don't underestimate how important having a permanent setup is lol. For me, need to be able to jump on and away you go. Cover etc, all the hassle (although all first world probs) were a barrier.
My bike, dumb trainer and riser block are kept away at one side of the room. The fan, laptop and desk at the other. I completely underestimated how much this 5 minute transfer and set up would put me off riding indoors

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Conza
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Arnomatic wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:58 pm
Conza wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:38 am
Don't underestimate how important having a permanent setup is lol. For me, need to be able to jump on and away you go. Cover etc, all the hassle (although all first world probs) were a barrier.
My bike, dumb trainer and riser block are kept away at one side of the room. The fan, laptop and desk at the other. I completely underestimated how much this 5 minute transfer and set up would put me off riding indoors
Hahaha! Yes. Indeeed. It'd almost be to the point that if someone was asking me - should they get one (indoor smart trainer)? The first & only question is: will it be permanently setup?

If the answer is essentially a no, then so is the recommendation :lol: .

Day dreaming about future perm setup, but also the standard - "how quiet etc. will all of the trainers be" in a few years time :o (hopefully silent. But they kind of already are?)
It's all about the adventure :o .

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Conza wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:46 am

Hahaha! Yes. Indeeed. It'd almost be to the point that if someone was asking me - should they get one (indoor smart trainer)? The first & only question is: will it be permanently setup?

If the answer is essentially a no, then so is the recommendation :lol: .

Day dreaming about future perm setup, but also the standard - "how quiet etc. will all of the trainers be" in a few years time :o (hopefully silent. But they kind of already are?)

I think a functioning KICKR18 is psychoacoustically the most "silent" trainer there is, followed by a Saris H3 and the Tacx Neo 2T. In reality they're all silent enough geared drivetrains are louder and unless you're specifically heat acclimation training, you're going to have a noisy fan or three turned on full blast.

Given how much indoor training I do, a Stages Smartbike SB20 or evolution of that will probably end up in my garage. It just depends on when my Hammer or the cheapo generic bike attached to it fail.

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All true.

I am half way there - moved from dumb wheel on trainer (replace skewer with turbo skewer, clamp to bike, lift flywheel, clamp control to bars) to wheel-on trainer controlled by phone (drop wheel out of bike; put on trainer; clamp quick release). That 145 seconds saved at the start and end of each session is massive!

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Personally, I think if you are going to have a trainer set up AND use it frequently, you owe it to yourself to have a permanent bike attached to it. You could even get a super cheap bike with a single speed, as components and such its a non-issue. This is all good, but the most important part should be that the trainer bike has the same fit on you as the other/s you regularly use outside.

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How about rollers? No setting up, you just pun your bike on them and off you go. Sincer there are now rollers with resistance... might be a solution and then you don't need specific bike for indoor.

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GaBa wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:03 pm
How about rollers? No setting up, you just pun your bike on them and off you go. Sincer there are now rollers with resistance... might be a solution and then you don't need specific bike for indoor.

Rollers are rollers. Even the ones with resistance only go up to 600-700W or so at expected RPMs. Not great if you’re in a Zwift race.

They force you to concentrate on staying upright, which isn’t great when you’re 4min into a 5min max effort.

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I was a fan and defender of rollers for many years, but even though I still have mine I prefer any of the different modern trainers I've used.

Definitely agree with having everything set up. If I bring a cold drink with me I have everything I need to start riding right by my setup.

I'm curious if I'll get the bug for an indoor bike at some point. They'll have to offer something more than what they do now for me to make the switch. Be better integrated into things like Zwift, steering, the Climb, buttons and joysticks, I don't know. But the indoor bikes need to do more I think for me to really get into them. I've realized that almost any frame that allows me to achieve my fit points will work and I've got no shortage of old parts suited for indoor use. So until the price difference comes down or the indoor bikes add something I'm missing, I think I'll wait.

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dgasmd wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:11 pm
Personally, I think if you are going to have a trainer set up AND use it frequently, you owe it to yourself to have a permanent bike attached to it. You could even get a super cheap bike with a single speed, as components and such its a non-issue. This is all good, but the most important part should be that the trainer bike has the same fit on you as the other/s you regularly use outside.
I actually had a perm bike attached to my temp setup. :lol: . Fathom that! So even with NOT having to add or detach the bike each time, all the rest was just too much approx 5min minimum I guess faffing around?

Old bike I everested on, and got t-boned, so some damage to a few things but frame is ok, took off brakes (don't need those! and gave the DA's to upgrade my wife's brakes), sold the wheels... etc.

Now that I sold the kickr18 - basically starting process of building it up into wet weather commuter / climbing bike heh.

But yeah, definitely agree - either perm specific smart trainer bike, OR old/cheap bike with basics (no need for wheels/tyres/tubes/brakes).
It's all about the adventure :o .

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