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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

themidge wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:01 pm
Nice, about half of the stages look like they'll be good for GC and barely any sprint stages :thumbup:
And stage 10 is along the coast, it could be cross winds all day! :D

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Kjetil wrote:
micky wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:20 am
I couldn't follow Paris-Tour but just saw few bits; is it true that Tersptra had to wait longer for the wheel change due to disc wheel?
IIRC he got a new wheel from a Mavic service moto and forgot to take the axle out of the bad wheel (you know, the axle must be compatible with the frame with disc) and that, as well as getting the wheel in, took time.
Oh well, not like it’s a race or anything... uhhh, oh... say whaaat?
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by Rondje

So if a French guy doesn't win next years TDF, what kind of parcourse will they build for 2021? This one is tailormade for the non-tt climbers like Bardet, Pinot, Allaphilipe and maybe even Barguil.

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Rondje wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:31 pm
This one is tailormade for Egan Bernal
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Dan Gerous wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:43 pm
2020 Tour de France stage profiles side by side, the climbers will like it. Only one TT (stage 20)and it finishes up La Planche des Belles Filles.

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I wonder if Sagan will even show up for this one.

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by sychen

AJS914 wrote:
Dan Gerous wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:43 pm
2020 Tour de France stage profiles side by side, the climbers will like it. Only one TT (stage 20)and it finishes up La Planche des Belles Filles.

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I wonder if Sagan will even show up for this one.
Why wouldn't he? He climbs better than most sprinters.. Another green jersey in the bag.

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It looks like a lot of suffering for only a few chances to possibly win a stage. But maybe not too many other sprinters will show up?

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Prediction: Movistar signs 5 sprinters during the off season to bolster their 2020 Tour squad.

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Rondje wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:31 pm
So if a French guy doesn't win next years TDF, what kind of parcourse will they build for 2021? This one is tailormade for the non-tt climbers like Bardet, Pinot, Allaphilipe and maybe even Barguil.
As I said to a mate yesterday; Bardet is a bad copy of himself and this situation is going on for some time now, Pinot is still complaining about his leg problem while Alaphilippe is an atomic bomb that could explode any minute now.

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by djcharlou

Flat TTer won't be happy too. Martin, Campenaerts, Küng ... why would they want to come beside helping the leader, they're is no "reward" waiting for their race at the end

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Tony’s mainly been drilling on the front recently with some decent itt results in between. Valuable team member at tjv.
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sychen wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:32 am

I wonder if Sagan will even show up for this one.
Why wouldn't he? He climbs better than most sprinters.. Another green jersey in the bag.

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I'd like to see Caleb Ewan try for green - he climbs OK and was second this year "just" going for stage wins.

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by tymon_tm

I'd love Sagan to do the Giro :idea:

IMHO there are two possibilities: many interesting riders might skip Tour knowing most of the stages will be "GC only", OR - on the contrary - they will bet on GC riders watching their backs and hoping for even more 5-10minute breaks reaching finish lines.. :noidea:

so it's either gonna be mighty interesting, or mighty boring. I'm affraid it's rather the latter, because the route looks super hard, SKYNEOS will come prepared this time around and pace the main favourites' group up on most of those "crucial" stages. and even if Lotto-Jumbo matches their strenght, nobody's suicidal enough to tear things apart having so many upcoming climbs. sure, less ITT time should be an incentive to attack for some, but in my magic sphere I'm seeing a very conservative racing, and lots of 2nd and 3rd tier names as stage winners :smartass:

as for the French - first of all they need a strong French team. then, a bright French star, who can do it all. it's not going to be Bardet, definitely not Barguil, and sadly not Pinot either. Alphaville has potential, but maybe this Tour was his "Voeckler Tour". in order to do better - and he needs to do A LOT better to win - he'd have to re-focus entirely his whole training and racing programme, and I'm not sure it's worth the shot, given his team isn't exactly "grand-tour's-general-classification-friendly".
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by themidge

I think it'd be quite funny to see the INEOS and Jumbo mountain trains half-wheeling each other up the climbs until it was a sprint between the leaders :D but something tells me it won't happen quite like that.

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by tymon_tm

afaik the pace imposed by a strong mountain train makes it pretty impossible to attack. if both main contenders (Roglic and whoever skineos picks) have 2-3 strong domestiques, it's 5-6 guys riding tempo only a handful of riders can withstand, and quite possibly no one can challenge. sure, not every stage has looked that way in the past, but that's a scenario that's being repeated over and over again, and we're talking years with only one dominant team (I don't count Movistar in, because with their *tactics* they notoriously threw away any shred of advantage).
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