Feel the same for CAAD... Glad i did bought CAAD12 few months ago instead of waiting for new model.. Also in the case of discounts for old model of SuperSixEvo, maybe ill get that one as well... U have really much much better looking bike (im sure with no less performance) compared to this new.....
Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?
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+13Pio wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:25 amFeel the same for CAAD... Glad i did bought CAAD12 few months ago instead of waiting for new model.. Also in the case of discounts for old model of SuperSixEvo, maybe ill get that one as well... U have really much much better looking bike (im sure with no less performance) compared to this new.....
I am expecting as well a Caad12 instead of the Caad13
My garage: Caad12, BRT C0, Cannondale Scalpel SE II, Specialized Epic pro '92, Swiss military bike '45, Orbea Gredos '87, Specialized Langster '12, Caadx '15...
Certainly there are much nicer frames out there and the graphic design is soooo boring. The previous supersix was a very well proportioned, balanced and classy frame. The new one is a few steps backwards for sure.
Ultimately most buyers are interested in performance first and foremost, the drive towards increased aero/compliance whist retaining a low weight is why the designs are all converging. There's only so far the laws of physics can be bent. If you want a 'traditional' looking frame shape then a modern race bike will become increasinly irreleveant for you.
Graphic and colour schemes, Dale need to up their game I'd agree.
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wow, some people seriously seem to believe in lower seatstays and some aero-design-gimmicks making them faster! interesting (...in sociological terms!)
Well I rather have people put their trust in physics than on beliefs. And so far we only have signs of lower drag.reedplayer wrote:wow, some people seriously seem to believe in lower seatstays and some aero-design-gimmicks making them faster! interesting (...in sociological terms!)
Since I am not racing anymore I do care a lot on bike behaviour, responsiveness and that will have to wait for some road-test
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I asked a guy from my LBS about it because they had an Ultegra spec on display. There seems to be a 105 disc version now too at about 2800€. I forgot to ask for the other prices. He also mentioned that there's a new Specialized Tarmac coming in September. I'll probably wait and see how they compare.
I guess that anyone who wants to benefit from 'the laws of physics' will prefer the systemsixStueys wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:57 amUltimately most buyers are interested in performance first and foremost, the drive towards increased aero/compliance whist retaining a low weight is why the designs are all converging. There's only so far the laws of physics can be bent. If you want a 'traditional' looking frame shape then a modern race bike will become increasinly irreleveant for you.
Graphic and colour schemes, Dale need to up their game I'd agree.
Mass is a law of physics I guess.kgt wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:01 pmI guess that anyone who wants to benefit from 'the laws of physics' will prefer the systemsixStueys wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:57 amUltimately most buyers are interested in performance first and foremost, the drive towards increased aero/compliance whist retaining a low weight is why the designs are all converging. There's only so far the laws of physics can be bent. If you want a 'traditional' looking frame shape then a modern race bike will become increasinly irreleveant for you.
Graphic and colour schemes, Dale need to up their game I'd agree.
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NordicSal wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:19 pmMass is a law of physics I guess.kgt wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:01 pmI guess that anyone who wants to benefit from 'the laws of physics' will prefer the systemsixStueys wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:57 amUltimately most buyers are interested in performance first and foremost, the drive towards increased aero/compliance whist retaining a low weight is why the designs are all converging. There's only so far the laws of physics can be bent. If you want a 'traditional' looking frame shape then a modern race bike will become increasinly irreleveant for you.
Graphic and colour schemes, Dale need to up their game I'd agree.
First UK store I've seen with them:
https://www.7hundred.co.uk/facetresults ... m=supersix
https://www.7hundred.co.uk/56534/premiu ... black.aspx
Top of the range DA Di2 is £8999 - comes with a Power2Max (as do many of them), 45mm Knot wheels and a top-tube logo that looks like a toddler was let loose with some Letraset.
Claims 30w saved over the older model. That's at the 30mph that we're all riding all the time because we're all WT Pros.
https://www.7hundred.co.uk/facetresults ... m=supersix
https://www.7hundred.co.uk/56534/premiu ... black.aspx
Top of the range DA Di2 is £8999 - comes with a Power2Max (as do many of them), 45mm Knot wheels and a top-tube logo that looks like a toddler was let loose with some Letraset.
Claims 30w saved over the older model. That's at the 30mph that we're all riding all the time because we're all WT Pros.
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Dat EF scheme tho
Just need one with rim brakes + Di2 and then I'm buying!
Just need one with rim brakes + Di2 and then I'm buying!
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30w is huge, even at 30mph, even for amateurs! Yes most don't ride at these average speeds, but we do go faster than that sometimes during rides and even if you average 30km/h, you'll still save quite some power. Even if you ride in the mountains and average 25km/h, it will descend muuuuuuuch faster, save you energy in the valleys when you do ride fast. I get that reaction for small gains like the new Scott Addict saving 6w at 45km/h over the old one, that's not much but 30w is quite an impressive improvement many even non-pros should be able to feel and take advantage of.guyc wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:41 pmFirst UK store I've seen with them:
https://www.7hundred.co.uk/facetresults ... m=supersix
https://www.7hundred.co.uk/56534/premiu ... black.aspx
Top of the range DA Di2 is £8999 - comes with a Power2Max (as do many of them), 45mm Knot wheels and a top-tube logo that looks like a toddler was let loose with some Letraset.
Claims 30w saved over the older model. That's at the 30mph that we're all riding all the time because we're all WT Pros.
Personally, I like the Helvetica style small logo and more minimal, simple graphics... But it's a matter of taste, there will always be people happy and others not happy about paint jobs, but it's inevitable, with every new bike releases come whiners about this color and that color and that graphic or the logo's too big we're not billboards, now it's too small...
Personally I really like these bikes. Only gripe is that nasty Garmin mount for the KNOT cockpit and having non-activated powermeters that have next to no value if you want to sell it and save weight or use a powermeter you already have.
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