Cervelo S3 vs S5

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kavlares
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by kavlares

I wish that cervelo would publish weights for each frame and size... does anyone have any info on the subject?

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Were there framer weights posted in the article? Is there were I missed it.

none
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by none

I doubt the aero difference between S3 & S5 is moer than a rider switching from bartop vs drops while riding.

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by Bluechip

none wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:35 pm
I doubt the aero difference between S3 & S5 is moer than a rider switching from bartop vs drops while riding.
I doubt the difference between a C5 and S5 is greater than the tops vs drops.

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by none

Did OP asked about the C5?

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by robeambro

none wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:21 pm
Did OP asked about the C5?
He meant that not even the aero differences between C5 and S5 are so large as to compare with tops vs drops.

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by Bluechip

robeambro wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:49 am
none wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:21 pm
Did OP asked about the C5?
He meant that not even the aero difference between C5 and S5 are so large as to compare with tops vs drops.
Exactly. Thanks. I thought I was further enforcing none's post. Tops vs drops is so huge that I doubt that the difference could be made up by comparing any two conventional (non tri) frames.

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by IchDien

I remember someone saying that the S3 frameset was very heavy <1300g...

dricked
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by dricked

My 56cm 2018 S3 disc is 7665g with cages, gps mount, oem bars stem, DA 9170 groupset, 65mm deep dt Swiss wheels, and assimo uno pedals. I could save another 150g with different bars and gps mount. It’s not super light but far from very heavy.
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mr.wulf
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by mr.wulf

In the New Tour 7/2019 they tested the Cervelo S3, Size 56, Ultegra Di2, rimbrake Version, total wheight 7.9 kg (wo Pedals)
Frame wheight 1.243g, Fork 418g

Aero results for the S3 with original Novatec R5 Carbon wheels 211W
tuned with Zipp 404 wheels 209W
The Cervelo S5 was tested in Tour 1/2019 with 206W

So....quite small differences between current S3 and S5 regarding Aero results.

ryanw
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by ryanw

S3D is a great bike. S5D is the top of the tree, if money isn't the deciding factor and you want to be different, go for the S5.

You can get a 56cm S5D to around 7.2kg fully built.

7.43kg as seen in this pic (excluding Garmin 830):

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pavlo
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by pavlo

Great info thanks for posting, looks pretty good for a non aero specific bike (usual Tour test caveats apply etc)

Aside from this, I nearly purchased a new S3 as i think the overall look is great, and although the headtube is quite tall, that means for most people they can run where they "should" but with little or no spacers :D The S3 is quite short in the top tube unlike a lot of recent bikes that are super stretched out, it felt good, but I went with something else in the end mainly due to weight (BMC roadmachine)
mr.wulf wrote: In the New Tour 7/2019 they tested the Cervelo S3, Size 56, Ultegra Di2, rimbrake Version, total wheight 7.9 kg (wo Pedals)
Frame wheight 1.243g, Fork 418g

Aero results for the S3 with original Novatec R5 Carbon wheels 211W
tuned with Zipp 404 wheels 209W
The Cervelo S5 was tested in Tour 1/2019 with 206W

So....quite small differences between current S3 and S5 regarding Aero results.

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by ryanw

...
'16 Cervelo S5 - 6,650g RIP
'17 Focus Mares Force 1 - 7,170g
'19 Cervelo S5 Disc - 7,460g

IG: RhinosWorkshop - Check it out for all my custom builds :thumbup:

:!: Ride Southern Spain Cycling Holidays *£445 for 7 Nights* :!:

pavlo
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by pavlo

Nice, especially as it fits without a crap load of spacers. Shame they couldn't make maybe 2 different rises of ste, as they look a it wrong with the step the spacers give.
ryanw wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:06 pm
S3D is a great bike. S5D is the top of the tree, if money isn't the deciding factor and you want to be different, go for the S5.

You can get a 56cm S5D to around 7.2kg fully built.

7.43kg as seen in this pic (excluding Garmin 830):

Image

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