Flexible Dentist: 5.7kg Dogma Think 2

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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Yeah, I don't have many options for good backgrounds close to my house. I live on a hill (and a hill all the way up to the park where I shot this) so there aren't many level places - which means disrupted background. And this was a quick escape during an entire day of rain. Taking all the photos against the wall from my last post seemed boring.

Bar tape is Deda traforato. I don't find it to be noticeably lighter than regular Deda cork tape.

Love the CW cages. Going on probably 6k miles of use so far without an issue. Well, aside from my bike getting blown over on the side of the road one day while I was fixing a flat tire on my wife's bike (basically every ride). The Evo fell over on a little embankment and both cages broke. That was fun. The weave on the cages and the seatpost is almost a perfect match, so that actually worked out really well.
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Imaking20 wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:36 pm
Love the CW cages. Going on probably 6k miles of use so far without an issue. Well, aside from my bike getting blown over on the side of the road one day while I was fixing a flat tire on my wife's bike (basically every ride). The Evo fell over on a little embankment and both cages broke. That was fun. The weave on the cages and the seatpost is almost a perfect match, so that actually worked out really well.
Thanks! Do you use consistent bottles or do you change it up? The Tune cages pretty much only fit the Specialized Purist bottles or smaller. I have a couple of the rapha bidons as well but they won't fit in there.

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

All but one of my standard bottles are Purist. The one exception is an Elite bottle which also fits just fine (without being loose)
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by 1sanglier

Very nice !
What is the BB ? It's very light 55gr.

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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

J&L bottom bracket. Still waiting for a THM
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Thanks

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The more I look at this the more I like it. And the description of the ride quality reminds me of how I find so many modern bikes feel like a jackhammer in my hands, especially the disc versions. There is something about the right amount of frame flex that makes you happy to stay on the bike all day. The only catch with these great older bikes is the lack of room for bigger tires. Indeed most of them have room for true 25mm which can do the job. I have just become such a believer in the comfort and safety advantages of tires that measure in the 28 - 30mm range which rules out a lot of these frames. Granted my application is 6 to 10 hour rides where size matters much more.
wheelsONfire wrote: When we ride disc brakes the whole deal of braking is just like a leaving a fart. It happens and then it's over. Nothing planned and nothing to get nervous for.

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

What is the safety advantage of a 28-30mm tire?

FWIW, this bike on 25s feels more compliant than my Wilier on 27s.

I'm in the same boat about liking it more the more I look at it though! I'll be very impressed if the Mosaic can offer a more comfortable ride than this!
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fogman wrote:What exactly is a “Dentist Bike”? I happen to be a dentist by profession and I also happen to have a Dogma 65.1 Think 2, only in Naked Carbon.
At least you guys are not even doctors, just dentists! “I mean, I’m not an anti-dentite or anything”!ImageImageImageImage

Yes, just kidding!Image

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Imaking20 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:21 pm
What is the safety advantage of a 28-30mm tire?
Choose any intense, technical, nasty, descent, how about something in the Pyrenees, perhaps the Portet d'Aspet. It's a beautiful day. You're really going for it, feeling the groove, you pass the Cassartelli memorial, pass the spot where Gilbert got it wrong and broke some bones, you're sailing now, traction feels great, you lean the bike over for that sweeping left hander, and immediately you're into a field of small fine gravel and dispersed sand granuals pulled off the roadside by a vehicle, none of which you could see because you have plunged into dark shadow from brilliant sunshine. Now you tell me - would you rather be on 25mm tires at 100 psi or 30mm tires at 60psi? The wider contact patch and lower pressure of the larger tire increases the likelihood that some part of the tire will be on solid tarmac. Same goes for a broken surface that catches you by surprise. The limits of these two tires is quite far apart. It adds up to some serious insurance if you happen to not see a hazard or misjudge your line.

Ever had a tire roll up on a small rock in a curve and then roll off the rock out to the side? Sometimes you can save it and sometimes you go down. This is the kind of thing that could cost you your life in right (wrong) circumstances. My take is that it takes a lot bigger rock to make that happen to a bigger, softer tire.

All that said, I would totally rock that Dogma on the Portet d'Aspet.
wheelsONfire wrote: When we ride disc brakes the whole deal of braking is just like a leaving a fart. It happens and then it's over. Nothing planned and nothing to get nervous for.

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

That's a long winded way of saying "I put too much pressure in 25mm tires" :P

100psi on 25s is a bad idea. I have actually gone for a descent KOM on 100psi (which I NEVER ride) and ran through a turn (which also happened to have loose gravel). Let some air out (more around 85 psi as I normally ride) and did it again. For the KOM.

Honestly, I think you are grossly overstating the impact of a couple mm. I used to do sportbike track days and wouldn't say the difference of an inch width on my rear tire had the effect you're describing. It did, however, impact the handling (slowing down turning) which is what I feel riding a tire wider than 25. That's it. A couple mm of contact patch is probably not going to be the difference between staying upright or going down in the situation you're describing. I'm not an all trying to convince you to ride 25s instead of wider, I just think "safety" is a bit of a stretch when comparing pros and cons of road tire widths.

And don't bring Gilbert into this! He's a god... But he picked a bad line.
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by dudemanppl

Isaac, that segment you linked has 4 real turns in it. Is that really a huge test of descending prowess?

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by Imaking20

Tommy, to quote your mother - "you don't matter and nobody cares what you think"


Now stop stalking me around the internet and go find yourself a boyfriend in real life.
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by godzuki26

This build is simply perfect. I freaking love it.
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by dudemanppl

You were replying to a comment about intense, technical descents and you give an example of a descent with 4 corners in 5 miles? That isn't very relevent... FWIW when I was running 31mm actual tires, I ripped descents at 60/65 PSI.

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