US Customs and international Frameset purchase
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I’ve searched the site but haven’t seen anything recent about experience purchasing a Frameset internationally and shipping to the US. I’ve also looked on the US government website and found a couple of conflicting percentages but nothing concrete or clear to me.
Has anyone here done this recently? If so any feedback on what kind of duty I can expect or any other advice or watch outs?
I’m looking at a Colnago and the cost is dramatically less so it seems like an international purchase could be worth the hassle and a bit of risk. Seller/shop does seem legitimate and they have been responsive with my questions. I don’t think I’d be able to justify the bike purchase if I was buying here it in the US.
Thanks in advance for any insight or information.
Has anyone here done this recently? If so any feedback on what kind of duty I can expect or any other advice or watch outs?
I’m looking at a Colnago and the cost is dramatically less so it seems like an international purchase could be worth the hassle and a bit of risk. Seller/shop does seem legitimate and they have been responsive with my questions. I don’t think I’d be able to justify the bike purchase if I was buying here it in the US.
Thanks in advance for any insight or information.
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In late 2012 I didn't pay anything .. purchased from slane cycles in Belfast to US California...
3 or 4 years ago buying something differnt, I tried to read thoose same US gov pages and it was a mess, i feel your pain....
Not alot of help ...
Sorry
C
3 or 4 years ago buying something differnt, I tried to read thoose same US gov pages and it was a mess, i feel your pain....
Not alot of help ...
Sorry
C
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I just received a frame from Italy. The final delivery was via the USPS and I was surprised that they didn’t charge me duty. I have another coming in a month or so. I’m hoping the same thing happens, but I suspect it has to do with a combination of carrier and how it is declared.
I don’t believe I’ve ever been charged import duty for things shipped from Europe.
I don’t believe I’ve ever been charged import duty for things shipped from Europe.
It seems to be related to who delivers it. When things gets shipped to me via EMS or Royal Mail and then delivered by the USPS I never get any customs charges. When UPS or DHL get involved with an international shipment they seem to find a way to take a big cut.
I read somewhere (can't remember where....meaning you can't believe everything) that if its marked 'parts' its not subject to customs. I'll have a frame & group coming from Holland via FedEx shortly. I'd like to advise sender if possible on how to help me avoid additiona fees.
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This is correct. I had 3 frames delivered from outside of State. 2 from UPS which charged me for duty fee ($70-$90) and 1 from USPS which I never got charged.AJS914 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:54 pmIt seems to be related to who delivers it. When things gets shipped to me via EMS or Royal Mail and then delivered by the USPS I never get any customs charges. When UPS or DHL get involved with an international shipment they seem to find a way to take a big cut.
I wonder if UPS goes out of their way to comply with some law and the USPS doesn't bother or if UPS is somehow also taking a cut for "brokering" the customs process.
Sort of topic drift, but it is best to keep in mind that countries have very explicit regulations regarding the classification of items for import and export, regardless of whether it is from a company or an individual. Also keep in mind that with the current administration in the US' views on trade, the fines and penalties associated with falsifying import documents can include seizure/forfeiture of the items being imported. Back on topic, last year I purchased two open mold frames from China which were delivered via EMS/USPS with no issues, while a couple years previous, a pair of Sidi shoes from a company in Italy were delivered via DHL and 2-weeks later I got an invoice from a customs brokerage in Florida for US $48!
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Any shipment via a carrier other than post will have brokerage fees applied and the actual duties charged. I’m not sure how USPS is, but I suspect it’s similar to how Canada Post works. They work directly with customs and don’t charge brokerage to clear your items. There is a cap dollar amount for imported items. If your declared value is over that cap, expect to pay duty.AJS914 wrote:I wonder if UPS goes out of their way to comply with some law and the USPS doesn't bother or if UPS is somehow also taking a cut for "brokering" the customs process.
After my origional post I found a listing of duty and it looks like frames above $600 are 3.9%. I asked the shop in Italy if they had any idea what I should expect and they said 4%. Give these two pieces of information I pulled the trigger and bought the frameset. Fingers crossed this works out for me. If there are no surprises it could turn out to be a pretty good deal.
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Which site did you order from?GothicCastle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:44 amI just received a frame from Italy. The final delivery was via the USPS and I was surprised that they didn’t charge me duty. I have another coming in a month or so. I’m hoping the same thing happens, but I suspect it has to do with a combination of carrier and how it is declared.
I don’t believe I’ve ever been charged import duty for things shipped from Europe.