2018 S-Works Tarmac Disc

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
shorttcuteddy
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by shorttcuteddy

PaulH wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:56 am
Can you post pics please that is the colour I want (chameleon).


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My Bike since a week.
Changed the groupset in dura ace 9100
The dtswiss wheels i changed today in brand new GIANT slr0 55mm carbon from the sunweb team. ( not on this pic )
Changed saddle in sworks romin EVO
Changed bar in sworks
Changes stem in noname 71 gram
Changed bar tape in lizard skins 1.8
Changed tyres in sworks tubeless 24mm
Got sworks bottlecages

Total 7,1 kg

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shorttcuteddy
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by shorttcuteddy

shorttcuteddy wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:15 pm
PaulH wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:56 am
Can you post pics please that is the colour I want (chameleon).


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My Bike since a week.
Changed the groupset in dura ace 9100
The dtswiss wheels i changed today in brand new GIANT slr0 55mm carbon only Made for the sunweb team and came from the sunweb stock ( not on this pic )
Changed saddle in sworks romin EVO
Changed bar in sworks
Changes stem in noname 71 gram
Changed bar tape in lizard skins 1.8
Changed tyres in sworks tubeless 24mm
Got sworks bottlecages

Total 7,1 kg

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sychen
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by sychen

https://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/art ... ery-53071/

Gallery for the Breggenators World Championship winning bike (first disc road WC win).. I love the paint job.

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crux
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Location: Zurich, Switzerland

by crux

sychen wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:26 am
https://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/art ... ery-53071/

Gallery for the Breggenators World Championship winning bike (first disc road WC win).. I love the paint job.
If I remember correctly, the first WC disc win was one day before AvdB from Marc Hirschi in the U23 race ;)

sychen
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by sychen

Senior WC... :)

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anykarthik
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by anykarthik

Anyone here with a Tarmac SL6 Pro with the holographic Toupe saddle and want to swap to a holographic Power saddle from the Venge Pro? I have the Venge and don't like the Power saddle. Looking to trade for a Toupe in the same fabric.

nulldreiundreissig
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by nulldreiundreissig

KevinM wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:34 pm
Full bike, showing drop

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@kevinM :Except for the wheels youre build looks pretty much like what I am considering at the moment, although in a 54. May I ask you for a build list and maybe weights, too?

KevinM
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by KevinM

nulldreiundreissig wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:52 pm
KevinM wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:34 pm
Full bike, showing drop

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@kevinM :Except for the wheels youre build looks pretty much like what I am considering at the moment, although in a 54. May I ask you for a build list and maybe weights, too?
Here’s the build
FRONT DERAILLEUR, FD-R8050, ULTEGRA Di2, BRAZED-ON TYPE, F
REAR DERAILLEUR, RD-R8050, ULTEGRA Di2, SS 11-SPEED, TOP
SHIFT/BRAKE LEVER+CALIPERS,SET ST-R8070/BR-R8070,F&R DI2/HYD
SW CARBON SHALLOW RD BAR 31.8X 42cm
SW SL STEM W/EXPANDER PLUG POL 31.8x90 6D
TURBO COTTON TIRE 700X26C 700X26*
PV TUBE 700X20-28 80MM 700x20-28 80mm*
BT-DN110 BATTERY
ELECTRIC WIRE, BLACK EW-SD50 FOR E-TUBE DI2
Shimano EW90-A Di2 Cockpit Junction Box 3-Port/ not for Flight Deck
JUNCTION BOX-INTERNAL EW-SD50, ULTEGRA-DI2,SM-JC41
WIRELESS UNIT FOR Di2 SYSTEM, EW-WU111, E-TUBE PORT X2, FOR 52 COUNTRIES, IND.PACK
Shimano BCR2 Charger for internal Di2 Battery w/Charging Cord
CL 50 DISC WHEELSET SATIN CARBON/BLK 700c
SW TARMAC MEN SL6 DISC FRMSET CLGRY/TARBLK/CHAR 58
SRAM Red 11-Speed Hollow-pin Chain with PowerLock
Shimano Ultegra CS-R8000 11-Speed 11-28t Cassette
FRONT CHAINWHEEL, FC-R8000, ULTEGRA, FOR REAR 11-SPEED, HO
POWER ARC PRO SADDLE

Sorry, I can’t remember the full bike weight and don’t have my own scale. I’ll have them throw it up next time I hit the shop. Here’s frame and fork from the build.
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nulldreiundreissig
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by nulldreiundreissig

KevinM wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:42 am
nulldreiundreissig wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:52 pm
KevinM wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:34 pm
Full bike, showing drop

Image
@kevinM :Except for the wheels youre build looks pretty much like what I am considering at the moment, although in a 54. May I ask you for a build list and maybe weights, too?
Here’s the build
FRONT DERAILLEUR, FD-R8050, ULTEGRA Di2, BRAZED-ON TYPE, F
REAR DERAILLEUR, RD-R8050, ULTEGRA Di2, SS 11-SPEED, TOP
SHIFT/BRAKE LEVER+CALIPERS,SET ST-R8070/BR-R8070,F&R DI2/HYD
SW CARBON SHALLOW RD BAR 31.8X 42cm
SW SL STEM W/EXPANDER PLUG POL 31.8x90 6D
TURBO COTTON TIRE 700X26C 700X26*
PV TUBE 700X20-28 80MM 700x20-28 80mm*
BT-DN110 BATTERY
ELECTRIC WIRE, BLACK EW-SD50 FOR E-TUBE DI2
Shimano EW90-A Di2 Cockpit Junction Box 3-Port/ not for Flight Deck
JUNCTION BOX-INTERNAL EW-SD50, ULTEGRA-DI2,SM-JC41
WIRELESS UNIT FOR Di2 SYSTEM, EW-WU111, E-TUBE PORT X2, FOR 52 COUNTRIES, IND.PACK
Shimano BCR2 Charger for internal Di2 Battery w/Charging Cord
CL 50 DISC WHEELSET SATIN CARBON/BLK 700c
SW TARMAC MEN SL6 DISC FRMSET CLGRY/TARBLK/CHAR 58
SRAM Red 11-Speed Hollow-pin Chain with PowerLock
Shimano Ultegra CS-R8000 11-Speed 11-28t Cassette
FRONT CHAINWHEEL, FC-R8000, ULTEGRA, FOR REAR 11-SPEED, HO
POWER ARC PRO SADDLE

Sorry, I can’t remember the full bike weight and don’t have my own scale. I’ll have them throw it up next time I hit the shop. Here’s frame and fork from the build.
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Thank you! That gives me a nice indication for my planned build.

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stringbean
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by stringbean

Anyone know why Spez would extend the chain stay length out to 410 on the tarmac and not the standard 405 that most “racing bikes are running.
Wouldn’t this effect climbing in a negative way.
Other manufacturers like giant have managed to keep geometry’s the same for their rim and disc version bikes.

Hexsense
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by Hexsense

chainstay length effect weight balance and how bike behave.
Some prefer as short as possible, they like snappy wheelie mustang feeling when accelerate hard up hill. There were a race toward sub 400mm chainstay length in the past. And then companies back off from there.
Some prefer moderate length, as they: 1.) give better chainline angle 2.) give more stable ride 3.) easier to have more tire clearance with double chainring set-up (especially when not using wider bb like bb86 or bb386) 4.) keep front wheel more on the ground when climbing (when rear wheel is directly under you, all your weight is now on rear wheel so front wheel lift). Yes shorter chainstay put more weight on the rear wheel which improve rear wheel traction. But it's balancing act between keeping front wheel on the ground (and also not slipping) and traction on rear wheel. Wider tire at lower pressure already helps in the traction part.

Shimano in the past recommended 420mm+ for disc brake as the rear spacing is wider and cause steeper chainline angle. Then they revise it down to 410mm on most recent generation groupset. That is equal to 410mm Shimano's official recommended rear spacing for rim brake bike which manufacturers violate them all the time. So that's a mute.

Frame maker generally like as short as possible because it stiffen rear triangle and save weight at the same time. Custom frame builders sometime tend to like longer chainstay as they don't concern with weight and like to give more stable and smoother ride compare to factory bike. Some company ackowledge that some ultrashort chainstay is too short but making it longer upset people who believe that shorter is better, and also weight-weenies who like less weight of the shorter one, so they now use disc brake as an excuse to lengthen it. The extra stability from longer chainstay could be useful on rougher road, especially when pair with wider tire. Disc brake user tend to more embrace in wider tire and go off pave more often too so i think it kinda make sense.

I think it doesn't matter much either way, 5mm from 400ish millimeters are not a lot for most of us. I know a former world champion who will not like the longer chainstay because it will make wheelie a bit harder :lol: .

funkyb
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by funkyb

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Frame - Tarmac S-Works SL6 Disc, 61cm
Fork - Tarmac S-Works SL6 Disc, 61cm
Seat - S-Works Romin Evo, 143mm
Stem - 3T Arx II, 150mm
Bar - S-Works Aerofly, 42cm
Bartape - Supacaz
Bottle cages - Arundel Mandible
Brakes - Dura Ace 9170
Front derailleur - DuraAce 9150
Rear derailleur - DuraAce 9150, C-Bear pulleys
Crankset - Quarq DFour 91
Bottom Bracket - C-Bear BB30
Chainrings - DuraAce 9100, 52-36
Chain - DuraAce 9100
Shifters - DuraAce 9150
Cassette DuraAce 9100, 11-28
Wheels: Roval CLX50
Tires - Continental GP4000S II, 700 x 28
Pedals - Oldddddd DuraAce prototypes

Total Weight - 15.9lbs / 7.21kg

I dremeled the Di2 barend junction down to fit completely in the bar without the bulky knob thing that it comes with. Also changed the stock blue logos to a rose gold with vinyl.

tutle2020
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by tutle2020

That’s one of the best looking Tarmacs I saw, gold logos really tie it together.

How did you get the vinyl cut exactly to measure?

funkyb
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by funkyb

tutle2020 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:49 pm
That’s one of the best looking Tarmacs I saw, gold logos really tie it together.

How did you get the vinyl cut exactly to measure?
I traced it, vectored it in Illustrator, and then cut in on my plotter. I usually do that on all my bikes due to not liking the stock colors, and disliking having the exact same thing as other people.

sychen
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by sychen

That's really nicely done funkyb.

And damn.. 61cm frame with long seatpost right at extension limit? You 200cm+?

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