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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Thanks. No 404s though, something faster :)
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Acid Minty

Retired:
Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

The ride:

The primary thing (perhaps only thing) I preferred about the Evo compared to the T2 was the handling. The STA and HTA on the T2 were quite standard "race geometry" which I'm not totally crazy about. I have a preference towards high speed stability over low speed agility and the Evo was good there. The Wilier, however, is great there. Italians just know how to setup a bike to get downhill fast. It had been so long since I'd owned a Wilier that I couldn't really compare it with Colnago handling - now I'd say Wilier is absolutely on par. It's fantastic to have so much control of your line (and changing your line) mid-corner. There's jut no drama with this bike.

From a ride quality/compliance perspective, I'd say the Wilier is at least as comfortable as the Evo. For a bike with so much aero shaping, it is remarkable how compliant they've managed to make the front and back end. Now, it's still carbon so it doesn't take off that buzz like titanium, but it's excellent nonetheless.

From a climbing perspective (which there's a lot of around me), I definitely prefer this bike to the Evo - which I always felt a little soft out of the saddle. I also preferred the climbing traits of the T2 over the Evo - but the latter pulled ahead again (literally and figuratively) on the way back down the hill.

I've obviously not been to a wind tunnel (might actually over the winter though) but I've been able to take a bunch of KOMs on this bike. Some easily - some less so. When considering the very confident handling mentioned above - there have been a few times I've tried for PRs on fast segments and felt like I totally screwed up a corner. Only to look back at the data and see that I was traveling 5mph faster than ever before. The speed of this bike definitely sneaks up on you! So much so, that I keep spinning out on my compact gears and thinking it's time to head back to mid-compact...
Current:
Acid Minty

Retired:
Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

KarlC
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by KarlC

Imaking20 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:09 pm
The ride:

The primary thing (perhaps only thing) I preferred about the Evo compared to the T2 was the handling. The STA and HTA on the T2 were quite standard "race geometry" which I'm not totally crazy about. I have a preference towards high speed stability over low speed agility and the Evo was good there. The Wilier, however, is great there. Italians just know how to setup a bike to get downhill fast. It had been so long since I'd owned a Wilier that I couldn't really compare it with Colnago handling - now I'd say Wilier is absolutely on par. It's fantastic to have so much control of your line (and changing your line) mid-corner. There's jut no drama with this bike.

From a ride quality/compliance perspective, I'd say the Wilier is at least as comfortable as the Evo. For a bike with so much aero shaping, it is remarkable how compliant they've managed to make the front and back end. Now, it's still carbon so it doesn't take off that buzz like titanium, but it's excellent nonetheless.

From a climbing perspective (which there's a lot of around me), I definitely prefer this bike to the Evo - which I always felt a little soft out of the saddle. I also preferred the climbing traits of the T2 over the Evo - but the latter pulled ahead again (literally and figuratively) on the way back down the hill.

I've obviously not been to a wind tunnel (might actually over the winter though) but I've been able to take a bunch of KOMs on this bike. Some easily - some less so. When considering the very confident handling mentioned above - there have been a few times I've tried for PRs on fast segments and felt like I totally screwed up a corner. Only to look back at the data and see that I was traveling 5mph faster than ever before. The speed of this bike definitely sneaks up on you! So much so, that I keep spinning out on my compact gears and thinking it's time to head back to mid-compact...
Nice ride report, thx for adding that.

It's interesting comparing yours and Ryans notes.

Thx

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

I've been traveling a fair bit with a new job - a double whammy as it's meant a decent time off the bike and then come back to the damp and gray that will cloak the PNW for the next 7+ months. On the upside, at least a little care package arrived from Germany while I was home. (Thanks, Starbike!)

I've been needing a new tire on the FSE and figured the new Veloflex Raven would be a great tire for the upcoming season (at least the few dry days I am home for).

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Sitting at 5802g with a DA9000 cassette installed.

I've also picked up an Extralite Hypercap to compliment the stem and expander and some TA chainrings. It's been helpful riding compact with all the climbing around, but I find myself spinning this thing out more and more and can't help but think there are a few fast KOMs I won't be able to touch without some bigger gears (or a motorpace)
Current:
Acid Minty

Retired:
Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

dereksmalls
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by dereksmalls

That's a slick looking bike. Nice one

beanbiken
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by beanbiken

dereksmalls wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:51 am
That's a slick looking bike. Nice one
Totally agree.............

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VTR1000SP2
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by VTR1000SP2

From the saddle to bar drop, hood placement, stem angle, saddle placement, angle, chainrings, cable routing, picture backgrounds, ... I dig everything about this build.
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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Thanks! I'm definitely digging it myself! I found a little time and favorable weather this week and was able to get out on the FSE + Raven combo. Didn't take much time to remember how much I love these wheels!
Current:
Acid Minty

Retired:
Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Haven't updated this thread in a bit. The bike has been on a bit of a weight gain diet with a 9100 crank and Sprint stem. Still deciding on whether to leave the logos on the stem.

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Current:
Acid Minty

Retired:
Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

mcfarton
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by mcfarton

Gloss black on the stem would look better


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caballero
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by caballero

How wide is the stem at the steerer clamp. ?

I’m thinking of putting one on my rig, but it’s Columbus max tubes, might look monstrous.

KarlC
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by KarlC

9100 crank looks great, not so keen on the Sprint stem, maybe Superlogic ?

tonytourist
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by tonytourist

KarlC thinks you need to run 90mm wheels, minimum.

KarlC
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by KarlC

tonytourist wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:20 am
KarlC thinks you need to run 90mm wheels, minimum.
LOL ..... Because Aero ? :thumbup:

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

If I keep this stem on it will get stripped - which means it will get glossy. Superlogic isn't an option because it only comes in 6*
Current:
Acid Minty

Retired:
Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

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