Back by popular demand, the general all-things Road forum!
Moderator: robbosmans
-
TonyM
- Posts: 3376
- Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:11 pm
by TonyM on Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:45 am
fromtrektocolnago wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:11 pm
XCProMD wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:09 pm
I have no idea as to where this whole rumor of Colnago being taken over by Giant comes from.
Colnago is a private owned company, a fairly small one. It seems to be doing fine although only its owners, the banks and the Italian government know, as they don’t need to publish any info on their profit or results.
From what I know they have never paid with equity their suppliers, and they have no debt with them. They take credit from a couple of Italian banks, that’s all.
Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
i've also heard that giant has a minority equity stake. this is not uncommon for private companies to raise money and gain expertise in this manner. it also provides giant with marketing know-how.
AFAIK Giant has no stake in Colnago but just a cooperation agreement. That makes sense as Colnago doesn't have the need of so much financial assets for the production of bikes compared to Campagnolo for the R&D and the production of the components.
Giant is more interested to be able to buy the brand Colnago.
Actually Giant could hire some good Italian designers for their paint jobs etc...as their frames looks really terrible in terms of paint jobs.
But it seems that it is not their priority for the Giant brand.
-
vinc
- Posts: 165
- Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:50 pm
by vinc on Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:45 pm
Let’s wait and see until 9. February. I guess it will be more like an update the v1-r had into the v2-r.
Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk
-
micky
- Posts: 5765
- Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:57 pm
- Location: Vicenza
-
Contact:
by micky on Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:43 pm
There's a video (in low quality) of Aru wheeling on what seems to be indeed the new bike with the C64 logo but can't notice any major design change.
-
gede
- Posts: 9
- Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:27 pm
by gede on Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:11 pm
Zakalwe wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:37 pm
Maybe they painted a 4 on a C60 for that Aru teaser to keep us guessing
I believe this is spot-on. Even the painting of the bike and the logo seems exactly the same as the C60, only the '0' looks more like a '4'. It's just a message that a C64 could be comming, but without showing the actual new C64 already...
-
nestornnk
- Posts: 193
- Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:44 pm
-
Contact:
by nestornnk on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:52 pm
C64 will be fully designed and build by Colnago in Italy.
Direct mount brakes,same seatpost like the V2-r,different dropouts are some of the changes.
Will start with 4 normal colours and 2 art decor.Plus a team colour that has not been confirmed yet
Price will be around 5% higher than the C60 but now the seatpost will be always included
-
mag
- Posts: 616
- Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:23 pm
by mag on Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:40 pm
Proprietary seatpost? Uh oh, I hate this (self-censored) a lot. On those photos it seemed like the seatpost would be thinner but I didn't imagine they'd go that far.
I'm currently waiting for the C60 to arrive, but recently contacted the shop regarding the possibility to make change to C64 and it still seems to be possible for me. But now I may end up with C60 after all. Will think about it...
-
Zakalwe
- Posts: 804
- Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:15 pm
by Zakalwe on Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:55 pm
Seatpost has always been included, hasn’t it? Just not in the UK, if you buy through maestro (uses Belgian distributor I think) then you get a Seatpost
-
fromtrektocolnago
- Posts: 1145
- Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:15 pm
by fromtrektocolnago on Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:02 pm
mag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:40 pm
Proprietary seatpost? Uh oh, I hate this (self-censored) a lot. On those photos it seemed like the seatpost would be thinner but I didn't imagine they'd go that far.
I'm currently waiting for the C60 to arrive, but recently contacted the shop regarding the possibility to make change to C64 and it still seems to be possible for me. But now I may end up with C60 after all. Will think about it...
I don't like this move away from round seat posts. As I understand it the new proprietary ones are more aero but if there's an accident or a collision they don't give and are more likely to see damage than the old standards.
Colnago C-59 (Dura Ace)
Firefly(Ultegra)
Colnago C-64 disc(ultegra) with Bora 35 wheels
-
corky
- Posts: 1732
- Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:53 pm
- Location: The Surrey Hills
by corky on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:24 pm
wilwil wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:10 pm
will a U shaped seat post make us all faster? Bollox
But it makes an internal clamp work well.......and they are de rigueur a ce moment.....everyone’s doing them....
