thumper88 wrote:topflightpro wrote:Specialized is claiming the disc version is no more than 4 seconds slower over 40k. And the frame weights 100g less than the rim brake version - I assume some of those 100 grams include the rim brakes.
Still, it's a pretty heavy bike, with the S-Works coming in 17.1 pounds with Di2 and Quarq.
http://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/rev ... icycling__
One of the reviews says Specialized engineers claim the disc bike can be built up at 15.4 lbs... I'd like to know the build details on that.
That unlabelled chart of the aero comparison is like something Trump would use to sell condos.
And let’s explore pricing. To keep it simple, just the S-Works frameset at $4,200 vs the rim-brake “module” at $6,200.
How in hell is a set of bars, a stem (no matter how fancy) and pair of brake calipers (calipers that are known to be substandard, even with the new fixes) worth $2,000?
I know there are tweaks to the rim brake frame and more carbon in it, about $40 worth plus some labor. But still.
And better yet, let’s compare the disc brake frame at $4,200 to the first generation S-works frameset they are still selling apparently at a profit for $2,000 retail.
So it costs like, $2,200 to add disc mounts and thru-axles to a frame that otherwise is essentially constructed the same?
The products are good, the engineering is good, but Specialized’s marketing is a hype machine and its pricing is extortionate. Company is run like a freaking pirate ship.
The frame is worth about $2,500, the bars $275, the stem, I dunno $140.
Yeah I would be interested in hearing how they can be built up to be 15.4 lbs.
With that being said on the rim brake version, I have wondered why they couldn't make the brake fairings out of carbon to save weight, as well as the stem. I know some people prefer aluminum stems for the stiffness, but curious how much weight both of those in carbon could have saved.